Southpark 11-19 (Mormons)

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: PatboyX
why do the south park dudes mock mormons so much? (i enjoy it everytime i just wonder why)

They are from Colorado, which is close enough to Utah to feel the influence. If you have never been to Utah, you don't understand how thick the religion is out there. I went to high school in a small town near Salt Lake City, and I knew one kid during my fours years who wasn't mormon...just one kid.

i also think it has to due with them being from colorado.
im not saying all ppl from colorado are like that but Utah is a neighboring state.
they dont discriminate, they make fun of everyone.
thats why i like those guys so much, they arent afraid to go after people and they dont pull any punches when they do.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Ynog
Remember the correct religion was mormon.

But I was a devout catholic priest my entire life!

I'm sorry, but you all picked the wrong religion... The correct answer was... the mormons... yes, that's right, the mormons.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: PatboyX
why do the south park dudes mock mormons so much? (i enjoy it everytime i just wonder why)

they mock everyone... jews... fat people... poor people... hicks... asians... rosie o'donell, sally struthers...

Oh my god! It's mecha-streisand!!!

 

[Luagsch]

Originally posted by: nater

Originally posted by: anxi80
the last line was golden.

yeah it was

 

[TommyVercetti]

I just saw the episode. Wow! That was such a cool episode. The last dialouges the kid says are really something to think about. I think that is what Eli was saying in some other thread, if it makes you happy and helps you lead a better life, then more power to you.

 

[darkeneddays]

Not the first time they have ripped on Mormons.

Orgazmo....

A masterpiece

 

[Broohaha]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Ynog Remember the correct religion was mormon.

But I was a devout catholic priest my entire life! I'm sorry, but you all picked the wrong religion... The correct answer was... the mormons... yes, that's right, the mormons.

where's that from?

 

[TommyVercetti]

When are they gonna make fun of the Islamic religion?

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Broohaha

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: Ynog Remember the correct religion was mormon.

But I was a devout catholic priest my entire life! I'm sorry, but you all picked the wrong religion... The correct answer was... the mormons... yes, that's right, the mormons.

where's that from?

I'm pretty sure it's from the season finale/premiere from two consecutive seasons. The finale was called "Do retarded kids go to hell?" and the following premiere was called "Probably." Basically the kids learn in church that the only way to get into heaven was to accept Jesus and all that stuff. They then asked what would happen to Timmy (TIMMEH!!! the retarded kid) when he died as he couldn't ever really accept Jesus due to his condition. Cartman starts his own religion and hilarity ensues.

I think that actual quote comes in the premiere. There's a "reception room" in hell where this demon is greeting the newly dead. All these religions guys are there from seemingly all the religions... a rabbi, a catholic priest, ministers, hindu guys... they're all trying to figure out what they did wrong and why they're in hell. So the demon shows up and tells everyone to relax etc. They all start asking why they're in hell, asking what they did wrong, and then the catholic guy speaks up like that. The demon explains that they all picked the wrong religion and that they should have been mormons to get into heaven. It then shows heaven...

 

[silverpig]

Bahaha, that was great.

dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb

 

[Genesys]

if you guys are going to mention orgazmo [which absolutely fu_ _ing hilarious] then you also have to mention cannibal the musical, which also makes fun of mormons. and has singing.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: SuperFreaky
"All about the Mormons" was hilarious.

How accurate was their telling of the Book of Mormon?

To clarify it wasn't the story of the book of mormon, just the story of Joe Smith writing it. As far as that goes what they mentioned was pretty accurate, they left out stuff but I didn't see a glaring inaccuracy.

I disagree and I have extensive knowledge of Mormon history. There were many glaring inaccuracies. Not to mention it painted the whole thing in the worst and most biased light possible.

At least the ending was right.

 

[thirtythree]

Originally posted by: VictorLazlo

Originally posted by: PatboyX
why do the south park dudes mock mormons so much? (i enjoy it everytime i just wonder why)

They are from Colorado, which is close enough to Utah to feel the influence. If you have never been to Utah, you don't understand how thick the religion is out there. I went to high school in a small town near Salt Lake City, and I knew one kid during my fours years who wasn't mormon...just one kid.

I am currently going to high school in a small town near slc and there are plenty of non-mormons. you didn't get out much, did you?

 

[rahvin]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: rahvin

Originally posted by: SuperFreaky
"All about the Mormons" was hilarious.

How accurate was their telling of the Book of Mormon?

To clarify it wasn't the story of the book of mormon, just the story of Joe Smith writing it. As far as that goes what they mentioned was pretty accurate, they left out stuff but I didn't see a glaring inaccuracy.

I disagree and I have extensive knowledge of Mormon history. There were many glaring inaccuracies. Not to mention it painted the whole thing in the worst and most biased light possible.

At least the ending was right.

Vic here is a clue for you. If you look at my profile you will notice I'm from SLC. I was raised in the mormon church and my family still are members, I attended services and instruction until the age of 18 including graduating from Seminary and taking collage courses at the LDS institute while in collage. I have heard the story of the discovery of the plates and everything depicted in the Southpark episode more times than you could ever imagine. I've also read 90% of the book of mormon more than once. I've also read large portions of the doctirine and covenants, book of abraham and the pearl of great price. I've recieved religious instruction in all books more than once in my seminary studies. With that said:

The story as presented was fairly accurate. I noticed no glaring error in anything they presented. The church itself will undoubtably deny the looking in the hat stuff these days as they continue to attempt to rewrite history that puts them in a bad light (the result of a prophit that started in and spent most of his career in the church's PR department). If you wish to debate any specific point of the episode I would be happy to point you to historical sources of reference that would confirm everything I remember in the episode.

Amish also grew up in the church and could likely confirm the episodes authenticity as well but I'm not sure he didn't get out sooner than I did and might not know as much about the theology. Besides with his taste in TV and movies he probably hates southpark.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<singing> Mrs. Harris had her doubts smart smart smart smart smart </singing>

I loved that part!


: ) Amanda

 

[Snuffaluffaguss]

dumb dumb dumb - this was the funniest episode in a long time.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<singing> Mrs. Harris had her doubts smart smart smart smart smart </singing>

I loved that part!


: ) Amanda

Yeah, it was good because well, it was just funny, and you also realized that the dum dum dum dum dum they'd been doing all throughout the episode wasn't just filler, but was really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

 

[ohtwell]

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<singing> Mrs. Harris had her doubts smart smart smart smart smart </singing>

I loved that part!


: ) Amanda

Yeah, it was good because well, it was just funny, and you also realized that the dum dum dum dum dum they'd been doing all throughout the episode wasn't just filler, but was really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

I already knew that before that part!


: ) Amanda

 

[ohtwell]

oops!!

 

[DrPizza]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<singing> Mrs. Harris had her doubts smart smart smart smart smart </singing>

I loved that part!


: ) Amanda

Yeah, it was good because well, it was just funny, and you also realized that the dum dum dum dum dum they'd been doing all throughout the episode wasn't just filler, but was really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

I already knew that before that part!


: ) Amanda

Agreed, you figure out the dumb dumb dumb thing, but not right away... at least not the first time they sang it; it was more like filler then....

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: silverpig

Originally posted by: ohtwell

Originally posted by: DrPizza
<singing> Mrs. Harris had her doubts smart smart smart smart smart </singing>

I loved that part!


: ) Amanda

Yeah, it was good because well, it was just funny, and you also realized that the dum dum dum dum dum they'd been doing all throughout the episode wasn't just filler, but was really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb.

I already knew that before that part!


: ) Amanda

Well aren't you little Ms. Smarty Pants then huh?

 

[dartworth]

it's on right now

 

[TommyVercetti]

So did the Mormons protest this?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: rahvin
Vic here is a clue for you. If you look at my profile you will notice I'm from SLC. I was raised in the mormon church and my family still are members, I attended services and instruction until the age of 18 including graduating from Seminary and taking collage courses at the LDS institute while in collage. I have heard the story of the discovery of the plates and everything depicted in the Southpark episode more times than you could ever imagine. I've also read 90% of the book of mormon more than once. I've also read large portions of the doctirine and covenants, book of abraham and the pearl of great price. I've recieved religious instruction in all books more than once in my seminary studies. With that said:

The story as presented was fairly accurate. I noticed no glaring error in anything they presented. The church itself will undoubtably deny the looking in the hat stuff these days as they continue to attempt to rewrite history that puts them in a bad light (the result of a prophit that started in and spent most of his career in the church's PR department). If you wish to debate any specific point of the episode I would be happy to point you to historical sources of reference that would confirm everything I remember in the episode.

Amish also grew up in the church and could likely confirm the episodes authenticity as well but I'm not sure he didn't get out sooner than I did and might not know as much about the theology. Besides with his taste in TV and movies he probably hates southpark.

A clue for you would be that I grew up in the church as well, and I've posted about that in the past. Two of my older brothers served their missions, I graduated from seminary as well, have the read the BofM several times cover to cover as well as the D&C, etc. and many in my family are also still active in church (I have not for more than a decade). One whole side of my family is pretty much just like the family in the South Park episode and yes, they live in Utah (although not in SLC).

I won't say the South Park episode was entirely wrong, just that it wasn't entirely accurate. For example, the timeline was all wrong. You're given the impression that it all happened rather quickly while Smith was a grown man when in fact it showed events that occurred over some 11 years, from when Smith was 14 until he was 25. Is that nit-picking? Perhaps, but I don't think so considering the excessively negative bias.
I feel there are other discrepencies are well, but most of them in this long-disputed story involve one person's unconfirmed word against another's same, and I have argued it in the past and found it tiresome.

All religions have odd beliefs and strange origins. I think it's just because people in general are so wierd. You oughta check out Catholicism or the other Christian sects sometime, or the 10 million gods of Hinduism, or (God helps us) the philosphical irrationality of so-called rational atheism.

That's why I said, "At least the ending was right. "
Most people go through this world in a very unhappy state. If a person can find something to believe in that makes them happy, and it harms no one else, then I will defend that person's belief even when I don't believe in it myself.

 

[silverpig]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: rahvin
Vic here is a clue for you. If you look at my profile you will notice I'm from SLC. I was raised in the mormon church and my family still are members, I attended services and instruction until the age of 18 including graduating from Seminary and taking collage courses at the LDS institute while in collage. I have heard the story of the discovery of the plates and everything depicted in the Southpark episode more times than you could ever imagine. I've also read 90% of the book of mormon more than once. I've also read large portions of the doctirine and covenants, book of abraham and the pearl of great price. I've recieved religious instruction in all books more than once in my seminary studies. With that said:

The story as presented was fairly accurate. I noticed no glaring error in anything they presented. The church itself will undoubtably deny the looking in the hat stuff these days as they continue to attempt to rewrite history that puts them in a bad light (the result of a prophit that started in and spent most of his career in the church's PR department). If you wish to debate any specific point of the episode I would be happy to point you to historical sources of reference that would confirm everything I remember in the episode.

Amish also grew up in the church and could likely confirm the episodes authenticity as well but I'm not sure he didn't get out sooner than I did and might not know as much about the theology. Besides with his taste in TV and movies he probably hates southpark.

A clue for you would be that I grew up in the church as well, and I've posted about that in the past. Two of my older brothers served their missions, I graduated from seminary as well, have the read the BofM several times cover to cover as well as the D&C, etc. and many in my family are also still active in church (I have not for more than a decade). One whole side of my family is pretty much just like the family in the South Park episode and yes, they live in Utah (although not in SLC).

I won't say the South Park episode was entirely wrong, just that it wasn't entirely accurate. For example, the timeline was all wrong. You're given the impression that it all happened rather quickly while Smith was a grown man when in fact it showed events that occurred over some 11 years, from when Smith was 14 until he was 25. Is that nit-picking? Perhaps, but I don't think so considering the excessively negative bias.
I feel there are other discrepencies are well, but most of them in this long-disputed story involve one person's unconfirmed word against another's same, and I have argued it in the past and found it tiresome.

All religions have odd beliefs and strange origins. I think it's just because people in general are so wierd. You oughta check out Catholicism or the other Christian sects sometime, or the 10 million gods of Hinduism, or (God helps us) the philosphical irrationality of so-called rational atheism.

That's why I said, "At least the ending was right. "
Most people go through this world in a very unhappy state. If a person can find something to believe in that makes them happy, and it harms no one else, then I will defend that person's belief even when I don't believe in it myself.

Sweet. A "my Mormon is bigger than your Mormon" fight!!!