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Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: ultra laser
Everyone crying BULLSHIT: Why do you think that excessive amounts of estrogen will have no impact on developing humans?
Dude drinking a glass or two of Soy Milk a day isn't going to produce an excessive amount of estrogen.
 

MovingTarget

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
I heard years ago it gives bitch tits. Stuff is effing vile anyway.

QFT. Soy "milk" can and never will be a viable alternative to real, actual milk. I will only call it milk if one day a soy teet is discovered. Bleh. The stuff tastes nasty to me.
 

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I heard years ago it gives bitch tits. Stuff is effing vile anyway.
Maybe if it was your only source of protein but if you eat a balance diet it wouldn't have any effect what so ever.
No way--I have big ole bitch tits now. Mrsskoorb says it's because I won't stop eating but I Just blame it on the soy.

 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I heard years ago it gives bitch tits. Stuff is effing vile anyway.
Maybe if it was your only source of protein but if you eat a balance diet it wouldn't have any effect what so ever.
No way--I have big ole bitch tits now. Mrsskoorb says it's because I won't stop eating but I Just blame it on the soy.
I thought you were a fellow fitness buff. What happened?

 
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Originally posted by: RightIsWrong
Isn't Asia that largest consumer of soy products and haven't they been using it for centuries? I don't really recall any "gay epidemic" being reported out of any Asian countries....do you?

I don't know. A lot of the Asian guy's look like girls with the tight shirts and long hair
 

aphex

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Stopped reading at 'There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture.'
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: ultra laser

Everyone crying BULLSHIT: Why do you think that excessive amounts of estrogen will have no impact on developing humans?

Everyone's crying BULLSHIT because that's what it is, ancient crap from a dogshit opinion piece on a dogshit source with no serious, credible corroboration. It would be worth a good long BUAHAHAHAHA if it weren't so pathetic and ancient.

But keep it up, but unless you've got some real evidence of any link between soy and homosexuality, you'll deserve all the laughter and derision directed at you for continuing to bump this POS thead. :laugh:
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Skoorb
I heard years ago it gives bitch tits. Stuff is effing vile anyway.
Maybe if it was your only source of protein but if you eat a balance diet it wouldn't have any effect what so ever.
No way--I have big ole bitch tits now. Mrsskoorb says it's because I won't stop eating but I Just blame it on the soy.
I thought you were a fellow fitness buff. What happened?
Actually I'm mostly joking but if we're being candid I'm not quite in the shape I was two years ago.

 

alchemize

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: ultra laser

Topic Title: Soy is making kids gay
Topic Summary: feminization due to excess estogen in soy products

Very, VERY old BULLSHIT from World Net Daily, a leading source of wingnutitude. The date on the blog is December 12, 2006, and it's a repost of this achived AT thread from 2/12/2006 with the same link. :roll:

What ever happened to
Steeplerot
He gave up being goth, got slightly better at posting and stringing sentences together, and became Craig234?

 

AstroManLuca

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Who the fuck would actually believe anything published at World Nut Daily? I wouldn't even wipe my ass with that paper - it would be disrespectful to my shit.
 

chess9

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I do a lot of lifting and read a lot of the bodybuilding forums, including Will Brink's site, www.bodybuilding.com, Eric Cressey's site, and many others. This notion has been continually debunked, but hard core lifters will often stick with whey on the theory that even a small drop in their ratios (T/E) is not acceptable. I've been drinking soy milk-about half-gallon a week-for over 10 years. I see no significant loss of muscle mass other than that attributable to age. I benched 235 x 5 as my max bench last week, so I wouldn't say I've become totally pussified yet at the tender age of 65.

Frankly, there is so much nonsense in the bodybuilding community and so many bad practices I'm surprised more of them haven't keeled over.

Meanwhile, if you are older and want to kick up your testosterone, order some anastrozole from one of the online pharmacies and join the parade. (NB: I'm not taking it and am just kidding.) There's a new study out suggesting it raises testosterone in older men by surpressing estradiol.

The best way to raise your testosterone is:

1. Eat right. Cut out the shit food, including sugar and high glycemic carbs. Eat enough high quality protein.
2. Stop smoking. Smoking kills testosterone eventually.
3. Lift HEAVY and lift at least 3-4 days a week.

-Robert
 

Ktulu

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It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.
You're also to be ignored as a crackpot.

 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.

Don't forget to smack your old lady around a few times with your newfound testosterone. A few black eyes and shell shut up.
 

OCGuy

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Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.

Don't forget to smack your old lady around a few times with your newfound testosterone. A few black eyes and shell shut up.

I've heard of white guilt....but man guilt?


Sheesh....
 

halik

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Originally posted by: PELarson
World Net Daily article!

OKAY!!!!!!

I'd give it a thought if it came from a peer reviewed study, but seeing as it is crap...
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.
You're also to be ignored as a crackpot.

LOL, relax, I'm actually not serious.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Originally posted by: RichardE
Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.

Don't forget to smack your old lady around a few times with your newfound testosterone. A few black eyes and shell shut up.

I've heard of white guilt....but man guilt?


Sheesh....

hey, look, you're still an idiot
 

IceBergSLiM

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http://www.t-nation.com/articl...es/the_war_on_estrogen

xenoestrogens found in plastics and things are more of concern. you would need a massive intake of phytoestrogen from soy to do anything.

Very minimally, the phytoestrogen in soybeans metabolizes VERY quickly. However, soybeans are not the only phytoestrogen source - they can be found in a wide variety of foods, including certain whole grains, fruits and spices. The bottom line is, phytoestrogens are incredibly weak. You would have to consume massive, I mean TREMENDOUS amounts of soy, to have the estrogens affect you... after all, men and women both have estrogen in their bodies naturally anyway, they are crucial to hormonal function, with more in women for obvious reasons.

Xenoestrogens should be the real worry - they are the synthetic estrogens present in everything from plastics to cleaners to chemical agents like pesticides. These metabolise much, much slower and are linked to all the research about the harmful effects of being slowly dosed with synthetic estrogens.
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

edit: I see you've recanted; how spineless.
 

Ktulu

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Originally posted by: feralkid
Originally posted by: Ktulu
It's not making anyone gay. What it is doing is turning men into spineless bitches, which is why we've been losing the battle of the sexes. If you guys want things to go back the way things were, stop eating soy products or anything else that's been known to increase estrogen and eat way more meat. Decrease estrogen and increase testosterone, simple as that. I'm serious.

Have you stopped beating your wife yet?

edit: I see you've recanted; how spineless.

Ok sure.
 

ebaycj

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Originally posted by: ultra laser
Everyone crying BULLSHIT: Why do you think that excessive amounts of estrogen will have no impact on developing humans?

Excessive amounts of testosterone delivered by steroids have glaringly obvious effects on the human body, for example. Why, then, would excessive amounts of estrogen have no effect?

Dude, give it up. When you post shit like "No, homosexuality is always deviant.", nobody is going to take you seriously.
 
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