Soyo 24" Topaz now TN's

[n7]

My buddy who already has the nice LG L246W-BN picked up one of the "3 ms" Soyos.

It's a PVA, not TN.

Not a single dead or stuck pixel either.
He's very happy

This is from FutureShop in up here in Canada FWIW

 

[krighton]

Originally posted by: n7
My buddy who already has the nice LG L246W-BN picked up one of the "3 ms" Soyos.

It's a PVA, not TN.

Not a single dead or stuck pixel either.
He's very happy

This is from FutureShop in up here in Canada FWIW

heh, so should i then hope i get the 3ms version rather than the 6ms?

 

[Dravic]

Originally posted by: krighton

Originally posted by: n7
My buddy who already has the nice LG L246W-BN picked up one of the "3 ms" Soyos.

It's a PVA, not TN.

Not a single dead or stuck pixel either.
He's very happy

This is from FutureShop in up here in Canada FWIW

heh, so should i then hope i get the 3ms version rather than the 6ms?

It looks like the 3ms maybe be either a PVA or a TN. They may be in the middle of swtiching to TN panes and are still clearing out remaining PVA stock, or it could be using a partner manufacturer kinda of like the samsung 226bw did where you not sure which panel you may end up with.

Time will tell.

To me, the box art change says that they may be moving to TN's but still have some PVA stock they are clearing out.

 

[krighton]

picked mine up this morning from om, 6ms box.

 

[david9999]

My Model # was DYLM24D6 (I forget which letters went in front of that)
and serial # was SCU7501E35612XX

I am fairly certain it was a TN panel.

David

 

[soccerballtux]

Originally posted by: david9999
My Model # was DYLM24D6 (I forget which letters went in front of that)
and serial # was SCU7501E35612XX

I am fairly certain it was a TN panel.

David

edit: you're new here sorry

 

[Sengar]

I picked up a 2nd one of these today, and have it sitting directly to the left of the one I picked up last year. The older one is a 6ms model, the newer one is a 3ms. I did notice a bit of difference with identical screen settings, displaying the same picture - the newer one seemed slightly more washed out, but at this point I'm thinking that while there may be differences that will require different picture settings to achieve similar results, neither of these are TN panels. There is absolutely no color inversion, everything looks fine regardless of my viewing angle.

The most annoying difference between the two monitors? The newer one's stand raises it about a half inch higher than the older one. I will probably wind up picking up some aftermarket stands or monitor arms just to even them out. Other than that - no dead pixels, seems to be in perfect working condition.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Sengar
I picked up a 2nd one of these today, and have it sitting directly to the left of the one I picked up last year. The older one is a 6ms model, the newer one is a 3ms. I did notice a bit of difference with identical screen settings, displaying the same picture - the newer one seemed slightly more washed out, but at this point I'm thinking that while there may be differences that will require different picture settings to achieve similar results, neither of these are TN panels. There is absolutely no color inversion, everything looks fine regardless of my viewing angle.

The most annoying difference between the two monitors? The newer one's stand raises it about a half inch higher than the older one. I will probably wind up picking up some aftermarket stands or monitor arms just to even them out. Other than that - no dead pixels, seems to be in perfect working condition.

Could just use a thin book or something to prop one up

 

[Sengar]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Could just use a thin book or something to prop one up

That's probably going to be my interim solution. It might not look pretty, but it's a lot cheaper than spending $200 on monitor arms.

 

[bradsh]

it makes sense that they are moving to TN. other monitors based on this panel are long out of stock. i imagine that the panel is out of production and it is only a matter of time until all of the P-MVA's are gone. i really would not recommend this monitor to anyone anymore. the only reason it was a good deal was because of the P-MVA panel. If it is a TN, *EVERYONE* is better off getting a samsung 245BW.

i love my soyo, but i saw this coming months ago when the other monitors using this panel went OOS.

 

[bradsh]

Originally posted by: n7
My buddy who already has the nice LG L246W-BN picked up one of the "3 ms" Soyos.

It's a PVA, not TN.

Not a single dead or stuck pixel either.
He's very happy

This is from FutureShop in up here in Canada FWIW

Thats a good trick since they were never PVA in the first place. The panel USED to be a AU Optronics M240UW01 V0 which is a P-MVA panel ( http://cn.fpdisplay.com/produc...ile_20060813164333.pdf ). Same panel used in a BenQ 24" monitor retailing for >$600. This BenQ monitor has been OoS for months now... not surprised the Soyo is switching. It's likely they've run out of M240UW01 V0 panels.

 

[imported_Filbert]

Oh boy. I went out and bought one of these months ago. When my dad saw it he went out and bought one himself. Well about 2 months ago his developed a horizontal line of stuck red pixels across the top. He dragged his feet getting an RMA number and even has yet to send the monitor away. It will be a real bummer if he ends up with a TN replacement.

 

[xtknight]

BenQ is also replacing their P-MVA FP241W with the new TN-based T241W. Indeed, maybe AUO's P-MVA panel has been phased out.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: Filbert
Oh boy. I went out and bought one of these months ago. When my dad saw it he went out and bought one himself. Well about 2 months ago his developed a horizontal line of stuck red pixels across the top. He dragged his feet getting an RMA number and even has yet to send the monitor away. It will be a real bummer if he ends up with a TN replacement.

If he has the OM warranty he may be better off waiting for the Soyo warranty to expire and just returning it to Office Max for credit toward another monitor. That's my plan at least.

 

[TheDrake]

Just a quick note, Picked up one of the last 24" soyos at my OM and sure enough the one I picked up said 3ms Topaz S and its a TN panel, no doubt about it. Gets dark from below angle and bright at above angle. I was gonna dual monitor it with the 24" Westy I got from BB but dont think so, this will be going back.

 

[asusi]

ok, just got mine in the mail - it is definitely a TN panel - it is going back to Officemax.
manufacture date: 2007.12
s/n SCU7521E7050086
MT-GW DYLM24D6
used the test at this site mentioned above

I have it sitting by the Westy L2410nm.
when looking at it from below at 45 degree angle you can see a "negative" effect.
Westy does not exhibit any darkening or color shifts/negative effects at these angles.

 

[soccerballtux]

Oh boy. Bummer. Hope I don't get the stuck pixel lines! Mine was manufactured in 2007.9. Guess we'll see.

It's that crappy ROHS solder garbage. The solder joints just aren't as durable as they were before. Go Go politics, we could have just legislated free recycling, but noooo that would have cost the corps too much.

If I get a bad line I'm going to be temped to take it apart and see if I can't find a bad connection and resolder it. Anything but returning it for a TN.

 

[Blazestorm]

I bought mine last saturday, got it today, definitely MVA and still says 6ms on the box

http://lousyhero.com/blaze/ndesk.jpg

(New one on right) Kinda weird...

Originally posted by: TheDrake
Just a quick note, Picked up one of the last 24" soyos at my OM and sure enough the one I picked up said 3ms Topaz S and its a TN panel, no doubt about it. Gets dark from below angle and bright at above angle. I was gonna dual monitor it with the 24" Westy I got from BB but dont think so, this will be going back.

If the colors don't invert... it's not a TN.. that's normal for a MVA panel...

http://lousyhero.com/blaze/vatn.wmv

First one is my old soyo, 2nd is a viewsonic TN...

 

[asusi]

Originally posted by: Blazestorm
I bought mine last saturday, got it today, definitely MVA and still says 6ms on the box

http://lousyhero.com/blaze/ndesk.jpg

(New one on right) Kinda weird...

Originally posted by: TheDrake
Just a quick note, Picked up one of the last 24" soyos at my OM and sure enough the one I picked up said 3ms Topaz S and its a TN panel, no doubt about it. Gets dark from below angle and bright at above angle. I was gonna dual monitor it with the 24" Westy I got from BB but dont think so, this will be going back.

If the colors don't invert... it's not a TN.. that's normal for a MVA panel...

http://lousyhero.com/blaze/vatn.wmv

First one is my old soyo, 2nd is a viewsonic TN...

Could you tell us what the manufacture date is on your MVA panel? I have heard that some 6ms boxes may contain TNs. Maybe the manufacture date is a more definitive indicator.

 

[asusi]

Good news. I took my TN version back to the Officemax store and got the last box marked 6ms. The panel has a 2007.11 manufacture date. There is a world of difference between these two panels. The MVA panels does not exhibit inverted images when look at it from above or below.

 

[DeathSniper]

FWIW I bought two of these (one two weeks ago, one a week ago). Both monitors have a 12/2007 manufacture date and both were in the new 3ms boxes; first one had a shipping label of Feb 2008, second one had a shipping label of March 2008. The first one was a TN. Was at another store and their display monitor didn't exhibit the inversion of the colors when looked at from under, so I thought what the heck and got one from there. Turns out it was a MVA panel (hurray) so I kept the second one and returned the first Anyways, just wanted to throw that out there in case anyone's still considering the monitor.

 

[Jumpem]

These are $299 at OfficeMax now. How do I know for sure what type of panel it has? And can I tell this just from the box?

Edit: $279 starting tomorrow.

 

[DeathSniper]

Unfortunately you can't. I tested both of mine when I got home and the difference was pretty apparent after setting both up. Otherwise they are EXACTLY identical from the box to the unit itself (obviously not S/N). Model numbers, date of manufacture, origin - all the same.

I'd say a good indication was see what their display model they have looks like - if it shows the inverted colors from under like normal TNs they probably have TNs in stock, if the picture doesn't change much while viewing it from under chances are higher that they probably have the VA panel

 

[jmunjr]

FYI I RMAed my monitor in March and got a new one dated 11/2007 and pretty sure it is a MVA...

 

[Dadofamunky]

Originally posted by: gorobei
ok, anybody want to do a little checking before we start building 100,000 ft tall supports to keep the sky from falling?

http://www.lagom.nl/lcd-test/
skip the initial tests and go down to the color fields(big full width images of CMYK-ish colors.) look at your panel from side to side and up down. TN will have significnt COLOR SHIFT in the high/low while MPVA will just get a dimmer.
-Purple with go to magenta or azure from different angles.
-Red will go to vermillion or magenta.
-Green will go towards a yellower warmer green or a cooler blue green.

Man, that's a candidate for link of the year! Thanks for that, it's very cool and very useful!