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CZroe

Lifer
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It's a guideline used by professionals. Get with the program.

Btw, the answer is still 2. Go suck it.


It's one of several guidelines used by SOME professionals and the only one you have cherry-picked to support this claim. News flash: That guideline was written expecting many papers to be submitted with a mono-spaced font. Last I checked, "professionals" we're expected to be better equipped than amateurs including having access to device or a machine capable of variable spacing. You might as well just say that it mandates a monospaced font so monospaced fonts are more correct and professional in every circumstance.

Do professional guidelines for antiquated printing presses still apply to other forms of professional writing?
 
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CZroe

Lifer
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this thread can fucking die already.


It must hurt to admit that you've been incorrectly doing too much work all this time thinking that it was more proper and you can't stand being reminded.
 
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Train

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It must hurt to admire that you've been incorrectly doing too much work all this time thinking that it was more proper and you can't stand being reminded.

The pain is negligible to what it must be, to be you. I'd imagine I'd probably just off myself. But I'd also imagine a strong need to make a really annoying post on ATOT before doing so.
 

CZroe

Lifer
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The pain is negligible to what it must be, to be you. I'd imagine I'd probably just off myself. But I'd also imagine a strong need to make a really annoying post on ATOT before doing so.

Unlike most people, I embrace and enjoy having my assumptions challenged and corrected.
 

Jeeebus

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Style guides are just that... "guides." They are not rules that are universally applicable. I learned a long time ago that you write for your audience. In my case, that is judges and, prior to a year or so ago, other attorneys/partners at the law firms I worked at (I opened my own firm in 2014). If you ask the one space/two space question to attorneys, I would wager that at least 2/3 if not 3/4 would say two spaces - not because it is right or wrong but because that is what is expected in the legal context.

I am talking about the Supreme Court of the United States, the various federal courts of appeals that I have been before, the federal district courts, and all of the state courts. They all write with two spaces as did the lawyers I used to work for. Does that make two spaces correct? Hell if I know, but if a judge or senior partner wants two spaces, that's what they get.

And yes, when people write for me, I expect two spaces as well. If someone wants to argue with me that one space is correct, they can find another job.
 

Ichinisan

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Necro backfire.

Huh? 103 to 124 is not close?

I also don't understand why you say it "backfired." I bumped this thread because a similarly contentious issue was being discussed in another thread.
 
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Red Squirrel

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Single space. Interestingly, on anything that is being displayed as html, multiple spaces wont usually matter anyway as browser only interprets the first one. Of course you could do " " ones if you want more.
 

dank69

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You'd think that the fact that most modern software converts double spaces to single spaces would be all the evidence one needs to reach the proper conclusion that single space is correct, but then again, Trump is wildly popular so the ignorance of the general population seems to know no bounds.
 

Ichinisan

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You'd think that the fact that most modern software converts double spaces to single spaces would be all the evidence one needs to reach the proper conclusion that single space is correct, but then again, Trump is wildly popular so the ignorance of the general population seems to know no bounds.

I think it was on this forum where someone asked why they keep seeing two periods on the end of sentences from coworkers.

It's because many mobile devices have a shortcut so you can end a sentence without switching to symbols. Just hit the space bar twice, which produces a period followed by a single space. These folks that ended up with two periods were entering the period manually and then trying to type a double space. It would come out looking this.. <-- right there

Apple seems to have recognized that occurring with habitual double-spacers, so it no longer produces a double period. I think Blackberry devices had the problem too.
 

Jeeebus

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You'd think that the fact that most modern software converts double spaces to single spaces would be all the evidence one needs to reach the proper conclusion that single space is correct, but then again, Trump is wildly popular so the ignorance of the general population seems to know no bounds.

Most modern software? I use Word which I assume most people also use, and I've never seen it convert anything to single space.

If you're referring to mobile platforms, I hardly think a system that gave us texting speak (kthxbai) is the best evidence of sentence structure.
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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Most modern software? I use Word which I assume most people also use, and I've never seen it convert anything to single space.

If you're referring to mobile platforms, I hardly think a system that gave us texting speak (kthxbai) is the best evidence of sentence structure.
If Word started doing that all the crybaby hipsters would go apeshit.
 
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Style guides are just that... "guides." They are not rules that are universally applicable. I learned a long time ago that you write for your audience. In my case, that is judges and, prior to a year or so ago, other attorneys/partners at the law firms I worked at (I opened my own firm in 2014). If you ask the one space/two space question to attorneys, I would wager that at least 2/3 if not 3/4 would say two spaces - not because it is right or wrong but because that is what is expected in the legal context.

I am talking about the Supreme Court of the United States, the various federal courts of appeals that I have been before, the federal district courts, and all of the state courts. They all write with two spaces as did the lawyers I used to work for. Does that make two spaces correct? Hell if I know, but if a judge or senior partner wants two spaces, that's what they get.

And yes, when people write for me, I expect two spaces as well. If someone wants to argue with me that one space is correct, they can find another job.
Well in the legal system the people actually making the decisions are old as fuck and apparently need 2 spaces to delineate the break between a period and the beginning of a new sentence.

As someone who has been a technical writer for 25 years, one space has always been the rule and that is backed up by the only style guide that actually matters - The Chicago Manual of Style.
 

Jeeebus

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If Word started doing that all the crybaby hipsters would go apeshit.

Wait... are we old farts/relics or are we hipsters? I wasn't aware it was 'hipster' to use Word along with the majority of corporations/businesses in the USA. You're the one spouting this nonsense about "most" modern software... I'm curious about what you're referring to.
 
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Mike64

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So whats the point in putting a double space in if it never shows up?
As far as typing when the text will be displayed in HTML, none, really. I just see no point in breaking myself of the ingrained habit of automatically hitting the space bar twice after typing a period at the end of s sentence. I do purposely use 2 spaces in ordinary Word documents because it it still looks better to me when I'm using a "normal" typewriter-ish font and left-justified text. (And I'd fire a proofreader who changed it, or any other obviously intentional formatting I normally use without asking me first!)

If I'm creating a document I consider more along the lines of "desktop publishing " - which among other things often involves more distinctive fonts and full justification - I generally use the single space "typesetting" convention unless I purposely want to give a block of text a "typewritten" appearance...
 
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