Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

[uzzi38]

Man I have been dying to make this one for a while now.

First rumours for RDNA3 are here so new thread time!

Just going to start off with this one for now: kopite7kimi on Twitter: "@VideoCardz Ah, I mean a simple mcm design with 10240 cores is not enough. Because the lift from RDNA2 to RDNA3 is much bigger than from RDNA1 to RDNA2. We should expect many big improvements in GFX11. 🤔" / Twitter

 

[AnandThenMan]

The fact that no one on this forums saw this and were expecting 2x as a minimum for raster and 2.5 being possible just showed how dyed red this forum is. Anything contrary to this was shutdown like my post.

Hmmm. I wonder what the folks who made fun of Nvidia will say now.
Probably that AMD did it now they will herald it as the best innovation ever.

I've been away from this forum for awhile, what's with the persecution complex?

 

[Carfax83]

Very underwhelming launch. If I was in the market for the best raw performance GPU I would go for an RTX card when Nvidia fixes their power connector.

This launch was disappointing.

I have to agree with you here. So far, the RX 7000 series don't seem to be as capable for 4K gaming as RTX 4000, nevermind 8K.

DP 2.1 is nice though, but to me personally it doesn't matter as I'm not chasing ridiculously high FPS as a single player only gamer. I just want smooth, high FPS output (around 100-120 fps) with all bells and whistles enabled to the max at 4K. HDMI 2.1 can deliver that.

 

[amenx]

XTX $999 , XT $899

 

[Stuka87]

7900 XTX is $999

7900 XT is $899

I thought there would be a much bigger price difference.

If its even remotely close to the 4090, that is a huge slap in the face, plus other stuff like DP 2.1.

And well, RIP 4080.

 

[exquisitechar]

Looks like I got closest to the actual performance and things were hardly much of a miss. Same with power. Clocks being not much of an increase and performance perhaps a tad below my estimated.

With all the enthusiasm for post hyping things to the next level compared, my post was the most realistic considering the performance per watt claims and the simply common sense.

Did people really think, we were going to get over 3ghz clock, 2.4x shaders without some sort of penalty for gaming performance considering the die size?

The performance could have been seen a mile away simply because of the 1.5x performance per watt.

The fact that no one on this forums saw this and were expecting 2x as a minimum for raster and 2.5 being possible just showed how dyed red this forum is. Anything contrary to this was shutdown like my post.

Congrats, you were the closest indeed. The clock speeds, I was totally wrong about.

Besides that, the RT performance is terrible. The gap between AMD and Nvidia will be massive in that regard.

 

[Schmide]

Take my money...

 

[Glo.]

"World Fastest Gaming Card".

Is this classic example of how moronic AMD marketing is?

The numbers they provided do not show this, but their words speak of it as it is the fastest GPU around.

 

[maddie]

I've been away from this forum for awhile, what's with the persecution complex?

Yeah, the woe is me gets old fast.

 

[MrTeal]

I thought AMD would bring a bigger jump in RT. Maybe not match Nvidia, but close the gap a decent amount. It seems they haven't closed the gap here at all. Overall perf/$ looks great compared to the competition, but no competitive improvement in RT is disappointing.

I also fully expected AMD to copy NV's frame interpolation. Even if AMD doesn't believe in it, they need it in the feature list for marketing reasons.

I was quite surprised by that too. 1.7x in raster and 1.5x in RT implies that it's relatively worse in RT now than RDNA2, which is strange. Wonder what the bottleneck is, memory bandwidth?

 

[poke01]

So this launch made me wait for Nvidia’s next gen cards. I have no faith anymore that AMD will ever catch up in raw performance.

Also majority of people buy these cards for playing AAA at max settings so around 4K 60fps to 120fps. That AMD guy was going on and on about DP2,1 in esports titles.

 

[gdansk]

I said it could end up between the 4090 and 4080 (well that seems right) but at $1200. So I don't think I have to concede to anyone.

It's cheaper so I would now expect it to be out of stock. Except for the fact no one buys Radeon.

 

[blckgrffn]

Seems Radeon encoding is finally getting supported in OBS. AMD AV1 encoder can also do 4K60. I believe Intel's is limited to 4K30 if I'm not mistaken.

Did it say 8K60 on the one slide? That's not really my priority so I might have misremembered it.

I was quite surprised by that too. 1.7x in raster and 1.5x in RT implies that it's relatively worse in RT now than RDNA2, which is strange. Wonder what the bottleneck is, memory bandwidth?

Could be they just prioritized raster performance output, used by all games, rather than RT output, which is used by a very small subset of games in a heavy way. Most games played now will never, ever use RT tech.

Even mentioning Cyberpunk at this point seems laughable, it was/is a buggy tech demo that was only a so/so game according to most.

I want to see what RT perf looks like in UE5 games.

 

[eek2121]

Sounds like these cards are targeting the 4080 (and the "unlaunched" 4080 12gb)

Makes one wonder how the dual chiplet one will perform, when it finally ends up dropping.

EDIT: I'm going to wait for benchmarks. I want to see how RT compares vs my 3090.

 

[Panino Manino]

Because they didn't went for ludicrous power consumption performance may seem a bit underwhelming, that is the impression it got. Actual clocks are nothing like "the rumors".
At least it'll possible to overclock reasonably, right?

 

[tajoh111]

Who shut down your post?

Look at page 85. It was yourself and one other person. Notice the enthusiasm towards your posts.

 

[StinkyPinky]

That RT performance isn't that great considering it wasn't great on the 6950 in the first place.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Because they didn't went for ludicrous power consumption performance may seem a bit underwhelming, that is the impression it got. Actual clocks are nothing like "the rumors".
At least it'll possible to overclock reasonably, right?

Expect partner cards like the Red Devil to have 3 power connectors, serious coolers, and push clocks as far as possible.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I thought AMD would bring a bigger jump in RT. Maybe not match Nvidia, but close the gap a decent amount. It seems they haven't closed the gap here at all. Overall perf/$ looks great compared to the competition, but no competitive improvement in RT is disappointing.

I also fully expected AMD to copy NV's frame interpolation. Even if AMD doesn't believe in it, they need it in the feature list for marketing reasons.

That's because Nvidia is on TSMC silicon just like AMD. When Nvidia was on Samsung, their performance was not as good. Plus Nvidia is a hybrid node ahead of AMD RDNA3.

 

[poke01]

Troll somewhere else, seriously.

Why? There is clearly positive bias towards AMD in tech forums.



So now you're admitting to trolling?
Stop. Now.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[maddie]

Look at page 85. It was yourself and one other person. Notice the enthusiasm towards your posts.

Check "shut down" meaning. Opposing view is not.

 

[In2Photos]

A 285W 4070 (or whatever it's called) will be faster in RT while consuming less than AMD's 355W 7900XTX. And it'll be cheaper (going with the original $899 price tag). Well..

I wouldn't be so sure. Nvidia seems keen on keeping their prices up. 2 year old 3070s are still above their MSRP.

"World Fastest Gaming Card".

Is this classic example of how moronic AMD marketing is?

The numbers they provided do not show this, but their words speak of it as it is the fastest GPU around.

I thought they said the "world's most advanced gaming card"?

 

[poke01]

AMD did very good on the price.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Why? There is clearly positive bias towards AMD in tech forums.

You admit to trolling, nice. Good luck with that.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

I thought they said the "world's most advanced gaming card"?

They did.

 

[HurleyBird]

Did they come for MLiD?

Came from basically everyone.

Pretty obvious that AMD was spreading misinformation the whole time to trick Nvidia into pushing their cards too far, and it obviously worked. Screw the planet, I guess.