AMD CPU + AMD GPU <<< Show your love for AMD AND Mother Earth. The greener alternative to Intel+Nvidia.
Agreed 100%. I'm in the US, so I have access to cheap power, however I've been complaining nonstop recently about high powered parts. There is not a single country in the world (that I am aware of) that uses 100% green energy. We are fast approaching the breaking point of (drastic, non stop) climate change. Those of us reading this forum will be lucky if we don't have to live through the worst of it, but our kids will...
If we take the 6950XT number for this average and multiply by 1.54x which was the perf/w increase claim then you get 131 FPS for the 7900XTX. That puts the 4090 10% ahead in raster but it costs 60% more.
The 4080 16GB is the real competition and well at just 20% ahead of the 3090Ti in raster it does not even look like it will compete with the 7900XT let alone the XTX.
In RT the tables change and there it looks like the perf/$ for RT performance will be about the same between AMD and NV assuming the 4080 16GB has the same dropoff in performance as the 4090. If it is a bit worse then even in RT the perf/$ tilts towards AMD as well.
Agreed, that is what I stated a couple hours ago. The 4080 is in trouble, and NVIDIA will have no choice except charge much lower prices for the 4070/4070ti. AMD just butchered NVIDIA's plans, regardless of other outcomes.
I'm glad to see the leakers like MLID/Adored/RGT be knocked down several notches.
Also it was unrealistic to expect 50% perf/watt improvement and move to 5nm would result in a 50%+5nm. Actually, the process gains are included in the 50% perf/watt gain. So the total is 50%.
People also expected Ada to get a bigger improvement. One "law" in complex semiconductors is that 9 out of 10 times, it disappoints the hype.
I'm also in agreement that AMD should not have repeated the RV770 strategy and have a big chip to take the crown. Halo matters, otherwise you're trying to sell many chips with low profit. And in reality you won't even get marketshare.
You lose in three ways:
-Low volume
-Lower costs to compete with competitive product of the same class
-More money lost due to not being able to sell a halo product
A couple reliable leakers (who were not wrong with predictions about tonight) have stated that AMD plans to launch a dual chiplet version next year. We will see. If so, they may end up dominating the top of the stack after all.
The RT performance is definitely below what most expected, however to be fair, between leakers at twitter and folks here, it wasn't really unexpected. Disappointing? yes. Unexpected? no.
I am waiting for reviews. I have an EVGA 3090 which has a 450W TGP (silently downgraded from a 500W TGP in a later vBIOS due to bugs related to transient spikes, the press missed that one I guess). I would love to be able to plop in a 7900XTX and have it run quieter. My PC is barely larger than an Xbox Series X, so every watt counts.