Question Speculation: RDNA3 + CDNA2 Architectures Thread

[uzzi38]

Man I have been dying to make this one for a while now.

First rumours for RDNA3 are here so new thread time!

Just going to start off with this one for now: kopite7kimi on Twitter: "@VideoCardz Ah, I mean a simple mcm design with 10240 cores is not enough. Because the lift from RDNA2 to RDNA3 is much bigger than from RDNA1 to RDNA2. We should expect many big improvements in GFX11. 🤔" / Twitter

 

[Novacius]

That is also what the leaked roadmap suggested

 

[marees]

RDNA 3.5 yrs ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/1901998874127987108

 

[adroc_thurston]

RDNA 3.5 yrs ??

KRK (the OG one with Z5+ and RDNA4.5 is dead). Expected

 

[igor_kavinski]

KRK (the OG one with Z5+ and RDNA4.5 is dead).

But why? AMD cheaped out again on die size?

 

[adroc_thurston]

But why? AMD cheaped out again on die size?

Roadmap realignment.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Roadmap realignment.

What prompted that? Intel is no longer a threat to them.

 

[adroc_thurston]

What prompted that? Intel is no longer a threat to them.

1y cadence being unsustainable.

 

[igor_kavinski]

1y cadence being unsustainable.

So they are being lazy. Gotcha.

 

[adroc_thurston]

So they are being lazy. Gotcha.

Torturing hweng people Apple-style is not wise.

 

[Bryo4321]

Fine with me, less fomo after I buy the framework desktop.

 

[poke01]

Torturing hweng people Apple-style is not wise.

Apple doesn’t always refresh their GPU IP yearly, they do sometimes but not always.

Intel and Qualcomm do recently do update their GPU IP yearly.

So the 1 year update is good for desktops but not for mobile? Seems to me that the “roadmap realignment” it’s about saving costs.

 

[igor_kavinski]

Seems to me that the “roadmap realignment” it’s about saving costs.

More like, they figure peasants still gonna buy.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Apple doesn’t always refresh their GPU IP yearly, they do sometimes but not always.

You do understand that SOC layouts and tapeouts are done, by, like, actual people?

So the 1 year update is good for desktops but not for mobile

In what world is DT on a 1y cadence?

 

[poke01]

You do understand that SOC layouts and tapeouts are done, by, like, actual people?

Yeah and that makes it torture-like?
Some do yearly cadence on mobile because that’s their primary in a certain segment of their business.

Apple tried to stop yearly cadence during the iPhone 14 era and people got mad about it.

In what world is DT on a 1y cadence?

It’s not, wrong choice of words. I guess AMD did a cost benefit analysis and decided it’s not worth it for mobile but was for desktop.


Although I would’ve loved to see a FSR4 enabled handheld, that dream has to wait till Q12027

 

[adroc_thurston]

Yeah and that makes it torture-like?

Cuz it's effort.

Some do yearly cadence on mobile because that’s their primary in a certain segment of their business.

It's an incredibly grating schedule.

It’s not, wrong choice of words. I guess AMD did a cost benefit analysis and decided it’s not worth it for mobile but was for desktop

I'm trying to find where AMD is doing 1y cadence on DT and kinda struggling with that.

 

[techjunkie123]

I'm trying to find where AMD is doing 1y cadence on DT and kinda struggling with that.

1 yr is the rebranding cadence 😂.

For eg this years Ryzen 9 260 is a "new" release (cough cough 8840hs...cough cough 7840hs).

 

[poke01]

I'm trying to find where AMD is doing 1y cadence on DT and kinda struggling with that.

Like I said bad choice of words from my side. I meant there is a 1 yearish IP gap from now till late 2026 where DT is on RDNA4 and mobile is on RDNA3.5.

 

[inquiss]

What maths are you doing that gets you from late summer 2024 when desktop zen 5 released to late 26 when zen 6 will release that is giving you a yearly cadence? Would appreciate if you could show your workings to help me understand.

Like I said bad choice of words from my side. I meant there is a 1 yearish IP gap from now till late 2026 where DT is on RDNA4 and mobile is on RDNA3.5.

 

[poke01]

What maths are you doing that gets you from summer 2024 when desktop released to late 26 when zen 6 will release that is giving you a yearly cadence? Would appreciate if you could show your workings to help me understand.

I’m sorry okay, my brain was not awake yet 😭😭

 

[poke01]

What maths are you doing that gets you from late summer 2024 when desktop zen 5 released to late 26 when zen 6 will release that is giving you a yearly cadence? Would appreciate if you could show your workings to help me understand.

Also I was talking about dGPU, not Ryzen but your point stands

 

[madtronik]

1 yr is the rebranding cadence 😂.

For eg this years Ryzen 9 260 is a "new" release (cough cough 8840hs...cough cough 7840hs).

Yep, sellers demand shiny new numbers each year. That's why we can find 7xxx mobile processors with Zen 2.

 

[Thunder 57]

Yep, sellers demand shiny new numbers each year. That's why we can find 7xxx mobile processors with Zen 2.

AMD Snake Oil Edition.

 

[igor_kavinski]

AMD Snake Oil Edition.

TBF, they do have an easy to spot numbering system showing which Zen arch the model is based on. Just focus on the second last digit instead of the first one.

 

[coercitiv]

TBF, they do have an easy to spot numbering system showing which Zen arch the model is based on. Just focus on the second last digit instead of the first one.

Do they? Let's focus on the second last digit:



You're not allowed to search online, tell me the Zen arch number for Ryzen 3 210.

 

[jpiniero]

Do they? Let's focus on the second last digit:

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You're not allowed to search online, tell me the Zen arch number for Ryzen 3 210.

Just be glad they didn't call it "Radeon AI"