Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

[coercitiv]

Smells like +15-25% improved gaming performance over Zen+, so the last stronghold is also under siege.

 

[NostaSeronx]

My response to all this; Gimmie Tigerlake w/ anti-competive rebate or gimmie 12FDX w/ ultra-low cost(wafers are only ~$500 more than 28BLK!)

 

[DiogoDX]

 

[itsmydamnation]

i was hoping for there to be a 16 core and all tiers moved to the left one. But if Ryzen gen 1 was anything to go by that wont take long to get some downward pressure. the 3800X does seem a bit over priced, both relative to the 3600X and the 3900X.

 

[moinmoin]

So with this Intel's ST advantage is (essentially, practically, I mean who will get 9900KS instead?) also gone.

 

[happy medium]

Smells like +15-25% improved gaming performance over Zen+, so the last stronghold is also under siege.

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it? Not in my opinion.
The 12 core is cool but we really don't need 12 cores to game for another 2 years.
Ryzen 4 and Intel 7nm with be here by then.
I guess if you still have a bulldozer or sandy bridge system it's a great time to upgrade but I suspect anyone that has upgraded in the past 3 or so years will not find Ryzen 3700 that appealing.




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[CHADBOGA]

So is there any price difference between Ryzen 2, 8 core & Ryzen 3, 8 core ?

 

[coercitiv]

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it? Not in my opinion.

A CPU company comes in and offers solid performance, efficiency and value improvement over current gen hardware and you dare "ask" who would buy that?!

Just go hide under a bridge.

 

[lobz]

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it?

There are basically no people in the world on the CPU market, who don't have one of the above mentioned CPUs. So sad for AMD.

Oh wait a minute...

 

[Hitman928]

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it? Not in my opinion.
The 12 core is cool but we really don't need 12 cores to game for another 2 years.
Ryzen 4 and Intel 7nm with be here by then.
I guess if you still have a bulldozer or sandy bridge system it's a great time to upgrade but I suspect anyone that has upgraded in the past 3 or so years will not find Ryzen 3700 that appealing.

Well, I'm still sitting on Haswell, so these are looking pretty tempting to me. . .

 

[DownTheSky]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

3600 and 3600x on their page.

 

[.vodka]

So with this Intel's ST advantage is (essentially, practically, I mean who will get 9900KS instead?) also gone.

Intel's IPC advantage over Zen+ was already gone depending on the workload, factoring in Meltdown/Spectre/L1TF/MDS mitigations. Its only saving grace was bruteforce peformance through higher clock speeds.

This release puts them behind both in IPC and ST performance and perf/w and perf/$ (there has to be price cuts incoming, their sweet sweet margins will have to take a hit)

It's a massacre.

 

[Markfw]

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it? Not in my opinion.
The 12 core is cool but we really don't need 12 cores to game for another 2 years.
Ryzen 4 and Intel 7nm with be here by then.
I guess if you still have a bulldozer or sandy bridge system it's a great time to upgrade but I suspect anyone that has upgraded in the past 3 or so years will not find Ryzen 3700 that appealing.

You just don't don't get it. Lets say I want to upgrade and I'm a gamer. My choice is 9900k or 3800x. The 3800x is faster, and $100 less and comes with a heatsink. Oh, and it runs cooler too. Its a nobrainer.

Same logic applies to 12 core if you have the need for it now, and don't want to go threadripper due to cost.

This is just s troll post.

 

[moinmoin]

Intel's IPC advantage over Zen+ was already gone depending on the workload, factoring in Meltdown/Spectre/L1TF/MDS mitigations. Its only saving grace was bruteforce peformance through higher clock speeds.

This release puts them behind both in IPC and ST performance and perf/w and perf/$ (there has to be price cuts incoming, their sweet sweet margins will have to take a hit)

It's a massacre.

It certainly is.

I liked the extended slide AT just included in its report:

 

[coercitiv]

So is there any price difference between Ryzen 2, 8 core & Ryzen 3, 8 core ?

We don't know yet, it all depends on how good the silicon in 3700X turns out to be.

For now it does seem like they moved them up in price though, as $299 2700 would correspond to $329 3700X, but we need to assess oc potential delta between 3700X and 3800X before we can tell for sure.

 

[Hitman928]

https://www.amd.com/en/products/specifications/processors/11781,11756,11761,11766,11771

3600 and 3600x on their page.

 

[Shivansps]

3800x looks overpriced at 400.12 core at 500 looks much better

nah, they are targeting the I9-9900K with it, thats petty much it, and it includes a cooler. I say, just get a 3700X and OC it, but that is just for the 1% of the people out there.

 

[Carfax83]

Smells like +15-25% improved gaming performance over Zen+, so the last stronghold is also under siege.

Well no more excuses from me then. The gaming performance was the only thing stopping me from getting an AMD CPU, so now with that out of the way, I can finally ditch my X99+6900K platform and get a much more modern 3900x based system

 

[Mockingbird]

What's interesting is that the "codenames" we saw on the engineering samples are actually the OPN(s).

AMD Ryzen 9 3900X

100-000000023

AMD Ryzen 7 3800

100-000000025

AMD Ryzen 7 3700X

100-000000071

AMD Ryzen 5 3600X

100-000000022

AMD Ryzen 5 3600

100-000000031

 

[Hans Gruber]

It's all fun and games until Intel releases something on or before the Zen 2 release date. Yes, it's all over for intel! That is too funny. I am pulling for AMD but there is more than a month to go.

 

[happy medium]

A CPU company comes in and offers solid performance, efficiency and value improvement over current gen hardware and you dare "ask" who would buy that?!

Just go hide under a bridge.

What I meant was I would think people have already bought a Ryzen 2600,2700 and anything faster than a 4970 on the Intel side in the past 2 or 3 years.
These cpu's are not much faster ,especially if you game at 1440p or above.
For productivity the 12 core part is good for $500 though.

 

[happy medium]

Well, I'm still sitting on Haswell, so these are looking pretty tempting to me. . .

I would agree, but haswell is 3 years old like I said.
For gaming and at 1440p, a 4970 at 4.8 is still a good CPU. On the AMD side a $200 2600 at 1440p is just as good.

 

[Hans Gruber]

I would agree, but haswell is 3 years old like I said.
For gaming and at 1440p, a 4970 at 4.8 is still a good CPU. On the AMD side a $200 2600 at 1440p is just as good.

Haswell came out in 2013

 

[Blockheadfan]

Who buys these cpu's? If a person has a 8700k,9600k,9700k,9900k, ryzen 2600 or 2700, this is not a good upgrade, is it? Not in my opinion.
The 12 core is cool but we really don't need 12 cores to game for another 2 years.
Ryzen 4 and Intel 7nm with be here by then.
I guess if you still have a bulldozer or sandy bridge system it's a great time to upgrade but I suspect anyone that has upgraded in the past 3 or so years will not find Ryzen 3700 that appealing.

Captain O. has realised that owners of current high-end CPUs don't get great value from an "upgrade" to the very next CPU generation. Shocking. You had to find something to criticise though I suppose.

Maybe 12 cores are not aimed at gaming?
/I

 

[Markfw]

I would agree, but haswell is 3 years old like I said.
For gaming and at 1440p, a 4970 at 4.8 is still a good CPU. On the AMD side a $200 2600 at 1440p is just as good.

You need to stop the trolling. If they want something for 4k gaming, or a multi-threaded monster, these are great.