NostaSeronx
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Let's assume the clocks listed are valid (which we don't know). There is no way these would be the boost speeds as those are used for differentiating models and heavily depend on binning, chips binned for better power efficiency have lower boost speed than those binned for higher boost speeds. In fact all those clocks are very close to each other (lowest is 3.2, highest 3.4 GHz) as well as close to the power efficiency sweet spot that GloFo's 14nm/Epyc 1 had (a little below 3.3 GHz in The Stilt's data) which would make perfect sense as base (or average) clock for server chips.
with iGPU?!You've all seen the dual-chiplet 12nm die and the octo-chiplet 14nm die. However, you have not seen the single-chiplet 22nm die!
Interesting. Although one would expect in practice the difference from a 3800X would be indistinguishable. Can't imagine there's a current or soon to be released game out there that really benefits from the 8 extra cores. I'm really curious how an OC'd 3800X will compare to an OC'd 3700X.Apologies if this has been posted but Pcgamesn posted up an article with some quotes by AMD about the 3950X. They said the 3950X will be the best gaming chip of the line-up. Obviously the higher clock speeds are at work here but it implies to me that the cross-CCX latency issue with gaming has been resolved. That is great news if true.
I do not know, I think it is just a lower cost chiplet for OEM mATX, mITX, mSTX.with iGPU?!
I do not know, I think it is just a lower cost chiplet for OEM mATX, mITX, mSTX.
2x 64b DDR, no change
1x Fabric, from 2x Fabric
8x GFX, from 16x GFX
2x GPP+2x Storage, from 4x GPP+4x Storage
Interesting. Although one would expect in practice the difference from a 3800X would be indistinguishable. Can't imagine there's a current or soon to be released game out there that really benefits from the 8 extra cores. I'm really curious how an OC'd 3800X will compare to an OC'd 3700X.
watSo yes, ARM is a much more refined core than x86 which is a big stupid core and can't keep up with ARM in IPC or efficency but the whole wide world doesnt seem to see this goliath vs david
Your guess is as good as mine, I can't even remember writing that, I'm sure it was meant to be sarcastic though it was 1am and I might have had a few drinks so pay no attention
hahahah alright then, my hope was that you were being super/sYour guess is as good as mine, I can't even remember writing that, I'm sure it was meant to be sarcastic though it was 1am and I might have had a few drinks so pay no attention
You're not entirely wrong though. Current x86 is a hack on top of a hack of a baroque architecture. You can find various estimates stating that this legacy eats roughly about 10% performance. By comparison ARM is quite efficient. Personally I'd like to see RISC-V becoming more prevalent, but that is OTYour guess is as good as mine, I can't even remember writing that, I'm sure it was meant to be sarcastic though it was 1am and I might have had a few drinks so pay no attention
Geekbench 4.0 on Linux : Ryzen 5 3600 versus Core i9-9900k
High bandwidth memory with low latency does wonders for Ryzen and Linux also helps a lot but this is, well ...
http://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/compare/12370322?baseline=13629401
Ryzen 5 3600 @ 4.4GHz, Core i9-9900k @ 4.9GHz
Ryzen's single thread memory bandwidth is close to the total maximum memory bandwidth which certainly helps to boost the score.
On the one hand, GB4 loves that memory performance.
That aside . . . a vanilla 3600 doing that well is kinda scary. They didn't even overclock it.
Dammit, can we get some reviews instead of leaked benchmarks.
The suspense is driving me nuts!
Compared to Linux, "with R5 3600 somebody hunts the CPU performance on Windows".
https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cp...+Ryzen+5+3600+windows+10&sort=multicore_score
The way this is playing out builds excitement for enthusiasts and end users, while building anxiety for the competition. It's just a form of AMD vs Intel psychological warfare!
The suspense is driving you nuts....Just imagine what it's doing to Intel.
The way this is playing out builds excitement for enthusiasts and end users, while building anxiety for the competition. It's just a form of AMD vs Intel psychological warfare!
The suspense is driving you nuts....Just imagine what it's doing to Intel.
Yeah, however from working at big companies in my past I’m 100% sure intel already knows within a few percentage points exactly what Ryzen will do.
They have all the resources to run simulations, they have all the skill to estimate performance from published stuff and like all large companies I’m sure they own one share of AMD stock to request the full financial report that they then dig thru for data and timelines.
Let alone full on corporate espionage. I'm pretty sure that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA all know what the competition is up to well in advance. NVIDIA especially given how quickly and precisely they respond to AMD's offerings.
sure they doLet alone full on corporate espionage. I'm pretty sure that Intel, AMD and NVIDIA all know what the competition is up to well in advance. NVIDIA especially given how quickly and precisely they respond to AMD's offerings.