Speculation: Ryzen 3000 series

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turtile

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Keep in mind that WE ARE GUESSING when Ryzen 3000 will launch, we dont know... This has to be a mistake by the marketing team or the Ryzen 3000 may be launching closer to the end of the year that we trought.

It seems strange to me to launch another version when you are trying to clear inventory.

Everything seems to be pointing to a July release. They aren't going to stop the 2xxx series with the new launch - they just need to clear 1xxx. I assume only high performance chips are worthwhile producing considering they are using two pieces of silicon.
 
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moinmoin

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They won't stop the 2k series, but the top end of it will be superseded first by the 3k series. Which of course will affect 2700x.

I think the anniversary edition will be mostly a collectors' item for display purpose thanks to Su's signature. Wonder if the heatspreader will be worth anything after use.
 

Justinbaileyman

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They really missed out on a chance to make some money till Ryzen 3000 gets released.
I personally think they should have binned the top 1% chips and upped the TDP if possible so these could run at 4Ghz base clock and boost to 4.4GHz or 4.5Ghz and sell those as the special 50th Anniversary Editions.
Or heck they could have called it the 2800x.
I know I was hoping they were gonna pull something like that off but no and now we are all forced to wait till the 3000 series..
 

Shivansps

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Everything seems to be pointing to a July release. They aren't going to stop the 2xxx series with the new launch - they just need to clear 1xxx. I assume only high performance chips are worthwhile producing considering they are using two pieces of silicon.

To me its just another chapter of AMD marketing team screw up book. But every option is on the table, OEM are releasing bios right now, they cant be too far out.
 

Asterox

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They really missed out on a chance to make some money till Ryzen 3000 gets released.
I personally think they should have binned the top 1% chips and upped the TDP if possible so these could run at 4Ghz base clock and boost to 4.4GHz or 4.5Ghz and sell those as the special 50th Anniversary Editions.
Or heck they could have called it the 2800x.

I know I was hoping they were gonna pull something like that off but no and now we are all forced to wait till the 3000 series..

No that would be usseless, because Anniversary CPU is not that important.

Ten years in future, a "few people will remember AMD 50 Anniversary". In reality most people will remember day or date when first Ryzen CPU-s was launched.

 

maddie

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No that would be usseless, because Anniversary CPU is not that important.

Ten years in future, a "few people will remember AMD 50 Anniversary". In reality most people will remember day or date when first Ryzen CPU-s was launched.

Only if the anniversary edition is a beast. Then, we remember.
 
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I'm stick rocking a 2500K and a 2gb 6950. I think its pretty clear that my PC is a Lenny and I need to be George.

Yeah you have another 2-4 years in my book.
I'm sporting a Q9650 w/8GB and a 280x. Still meets nearly all of my needs even including gaming however it is having frequent breakdowns.
 

Markfw

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No that would be usseless, because Anniversary CPU is not that important.

Ten years in future, a "few people will remember AMD 50 Anniversary". In reality most people will remember day or date when first Ryzen CPU-s was launched.

For us older folks... I remember when...
1) 8088 came out, way faster than Commodore64 and had a hard drive "option"
2) 286 came out, they were fast compared to 8088
3) 386 came out, they were faster
4) 486 came out, and they had co-processor, really fast.
5) Pentium came out and it was a whole new world
6) AMD64/Opteron came out, and blew away anything Intel, performance, heat, power.
7) CORE came out, blew away anything AMD had, performance,heat,power

THEN when Ryzen came out, it blew away their old chips in performance,heat and power, and in some areas beat Intel, especially in multi-core. And definitely on value.
Ryzen+ (2700x,2950x, etc) was better, but nothing fantastic.

Ryzen 2 seems like it may be on the level of the releases I named above, due to the "chiplet" design, power, heat, and performance.

Only time will tell.
 

realibrad

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For us older folks... I remember when...
1) 8088 came out, way faster than Commodore64 and had a hard drive "option"
2) 286 came out, they were fast compared to 8088
3) 386 came out, they were faster
4) 486 came out, and they had co-processor, really fast.
5) Pentium came out and it was a whole new world
6) AMD64/Opteron came out, and blew away anything Intel, performance, heat, power.
7) CORE came out, blew away anything AMD had, performance,heat,power

THEN when Ryzen came out, it blew away their old chips in performance,heat and power, and in some areas beat Intel, especially in multi-core. And definitely on value.
Ryzen+ (2700x,2950x, etc) was better, but nothing fantastic.

Ryzen 2 seems like it may be on the level of the releases I named above, due to the "chiplet" design, power, heat, and performance.

Only time will tell.

That Chiplet design is revolutionary honestly. It has the ability to drive down costs which AMD needs going into the future. I went from an AMD 6000, to a X3 720, to a 2500k. I'm 99% sure that my next build is going to be an AMD cpu again. I have not been this excited about PC hardware in a long time.
 

DrMrLordX

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Not sure how many people who would be interested in that stuff aren't also just waiting for Zen 2.

AMD is probably banking on some people not knowing/caring about Zen2. The price for what you get isn't terrible. It's a bit underwhelming otherwise. Who knows, they may be golden chips as well.

Keep in mind that WE ARE GUESSING when Ryzen 3000 will launch, we dont know... This has to be a mistake by the marketing team or the Ryzen 3000 may be launching closer to the end of the year that we trought.

. . . no
 

RTX2080

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seems some guys has a quick screenshot about 3200G/3400G before the original source was deleted due to NDA lol.



the fourth line was stating temperature(under full load i think)

last line stating 2200g/2400g both are TIM while 3200g/3400g both are soldered!
 

plopke

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Well looking at motherboard bios list , seam the big ones are preparing for BIOS updates for the 3000 series , including B350 boards , nice to see. But it is about time for 32MB bios chips , maybe only a AMD issue with their like whopping 50+ CPU's supported on one socket.

So all boards posting 0.0.7.X bios updates are for running engineering samples zen 2?

"AGESA 0.0.7.2 for Athlon 200-series (Raven2) APU and further new CPU support "
 
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Well looking at motherboard bios list , seam the big ones are preparing for BIOS updates for the 3000 series , including B350 boards , nice to see. But it is about time for 32MB bios chips , maybe only a AMD issue with their like whopping 50+ CPU's supported on one socket.

So all boards posting 0.0.7.X bios updates are for running engineering samples zen 2?

"AGESA 0.0.7.2 for Athlon 200-series (Raven2) APU and further new CPU support "
I read yesterday that motherboards with small bios storage are removing support for old chips and replacing with new Ryzen chips
 

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PotatoWithEarsOnSide

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What happens if you have one of those boards that no longer suppoets the CPU that you have?
There's bound to be one guy that flashes an incompatible BIOS.
 

amd6502

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That has indeed been the case (already some time ago) https://www.anandtech.com/show/1297...istol-ridge-dropped-from-certain-motherboards , pretty sure bristol ridge support if not removed already will be now removed for sure . For my motherboard it states "Note : Due to BIOS ROM size limited, no Bristol Ridge APU support."

That sucks. I guess those A6 or BR based chips are going to be replaced by something like a 200GE as that chip in the drawer used for bios flashing.
 

crashtech

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Sorry if this was discussed somewhere in the 97 pages, but is there any word on Zen 2's AVX2 performance? That is what matters most for my use case.
 
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Sorry if this was discussed somewhere in the 97 pages, but is there any word on Zen 2's AVX2 performance? That is what matters most for my use case.

Not sure, I guessing we will get better leaks this time next month post the AMD partner meet up conference thing.
 

Shivansps

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seems some guys has a quick screenshot about 3200G/3400G before the original source was deleted due to NDA lol.

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the fourth line was stating temperature(under full load i think)

last line stating 2200g/2400g both are TIM while 3200g/3400g both are soldered!

IGP, IGP is all for those APUs, not a few more mhz on the CPU. Also i doubt there was a need to use solder, you could run the 2200G at 3.9-4.0 @ 1.38v and the Vega 8 at 1500mhz @ 1.2V with the stock cooler, in fact this is what im using right now.

I got to admit i hoped for 4C/8T on the 3200G, now i really dont think there going to be much movement below $200, well.. unless the 3400G is taking the $100 price slot.
 
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