I'm not super enthused about the chipset fan thing. I've had pretty much every one of those I've ever had die on me even with the most careful dust maintenance lol.
~11W, seems like you would be able to have Cooler Master or somebody make a little vertical heatpipe/fin design (almost like a baby 212), and cool it passively if you have good case airflow. It will be interesting to see what kind of mods come about. It's still really early, I'll stick with 470 for now since I already have it, and don't have any 4.0 gear anyway.
But I bet we see some clever workarounds for it. I hope, lol. At least it would have been nice if they made the damn things standard across every 570 board so the fans would be common and easy to swap. But no, they look vastly different across makes/models, bleh.
Real simple guys, its OT, go make a thread there about it, its not technical about CPU's.
And I did not delete it, a forum Administrator did.
Water cool it
Honestly, I think the issue is that with a big heatpipe/fin setup, it would obstruct the expansion slots' ability to accommodate a dGPU (or so it looks to me based on the X570 boards I've seen). So beyond the fan, liquid cooling may be the only good option?
It doesn't take that much board area to put a decent copper heatsink on there. Even if it isn't integrated into a boardwide heatpipe system. They just don't want to compromise the "board armor" look.
I calculated 11% in cinebech, the best case scenario based on AMD presentation and you can bet AMD is using best case scenarios (as everyone)Sure, 15% IPC gains over Zen+ combined with security mitigations on the 8700 (even assuming you left HT enabled) mean the 3600 might be ahead, but not by 10+% unless there's some shocker coming in benchmarks. Certainly no reason to move if you don't need it for any particular heavily threaded use.
Cinebench isn't best case. I can tell because they literally say they got 15% in specint2006 rate, so cinebench cannot be a best case.I calculated 11% in cinebech, the best case scenario based on AMD presentation and you can bet AMD is using best case scenarios (as everyone)
we will see that 15% in real world, not cinebench or spec, geekbench or whatever
and that security ...please don't post that it is needed to disable HT on desktop chip with desktop usage, It doesn't look good here
the 3600 is my pick too, but oced 8700 to 4,7+GHz is still better and it is here from October of 2017
don't make that r3000 better than it is
Well why don't you tell that admin that all of the posts in these past few threads on Ryzen and Navi where Mockingbird and others are crapping on Jim are also OT and not technical about CPUs?
Why would you leave the posts that are OT yet delete my thread?
Either do your job and get rid of the OT content in threads or at least allow a repository for those borderline trolling people to deposit their OT garbage.
I calculated 11% in cinebech, the best case scenario based on AMD presentation and you can bet AMD is using best case scenarios (as everyone)
we will see that 15% in real world, not cinebench or spec, geekbench or whatever
and that security ...please don't post that it is needed to disable HT on desktop chip with desktop usage, It doesn't look good here
the 3600 is my pick too, but oced 8700 to 4,7+GHz is still better and it is here from October of 2017
don't make that r3000 better than it is
doesn't matter if its (cine)bench or whatever benchCinebench isn't best case. I can tell because they literally say they got 15% in specint2006 rate, so cinebench cannot be a best case.
Cinebench is a fairly reliable, well scaling with cores, and quick to do benchmark. Perfect for showing off multicore devices on a stage.
If we're comparing overclocked to stock, why don't we compare a liquid nitrogen cooled 2700X at 5.5-6.0 GHz all-core to your overclocked 8700 at 4.7 GHz?
specint isn't a real workload, cinebench should represent cinema 4d workload, which is realSee CatMerc's reply. specint is the best case scenario, 15%.
I didn't.
If we're comparing overclocked to stock, why don't we compare a liquid nitrogen cooled 2700X at 5.5-6.0 GHz all-core to your overclocked 8700 at 4.7 GHz?
anyone has news bout b550 chipset? MB with fans or not?
can't believe I wont buy an excellent product (3800X or 3900X) because of chipset fan in 2019.....
Spec_int2006 use a set of integer based loads and 15% IPC gain in this bench certainly brought much more concern at Intel s than CB scores.doesn't matter if its (cine)bench or whatever bench
we will see it in the real world
I calculated 11% in cinebech, the best case scenario based on AMD presentation and you can bet AMD is using best case scenarios (as everyone)
we will see that 15% in real world, not cinebench or spec, geekbench or whatever
and that security ...please don't post that it is needed to disable HT on desktop chip with desktop usage, It doesn't look good here
the 3600 is my pick too, but oced 8700 to 4,7+GHz is still better and it is here from October of 2017
don't make that r3000 better than it is
anyone has news bout b550 chipset? MB with fans or not?
can't believe I wont buy an excellent product (3800X or 3900X) because of chipset fan in 2019.....
Gigabyte has an X570 motherboard that uses a huge heatsink (literally taking half the motherboard) instead of a chipset fan.
Please do I am really sick of it in this thread
specint isn't a real workload, cinebench should represent cinema 4d workload, which is real
any other benches ? please link
your post with that cooling devaluates the achievement made by AMD
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Careful you are in mod call out territory.
If SPEC isn't real, I don't know what is.specint isn't a real workload
Threadripper 3000 lives!
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-you-will-definitely-see-more-threadripper-from-us
My guess is (late) Q3 with a new updated chipset and up to 48 cores (staying on the safe side), keeping the base clocks similar or slightly higher while driving boost close to 4.7Ghz. That thing will be a monster. 50% more cores with ~2x better AVX performance (~3x combined uplift versus 2990, YIKES), better memory management and no NUMA quirks.