Markfw
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Yes, I keep adjusting based on PST/PDT. I remember it was 9 hours difference when I was in Europe9am Eastern = 2PM UK.
Yes, I keep adjusting based on PST/PDT. I remember it was 9 hours difference when I was in Europe9am Eastern = 2PM UK.
Well someone was lucky to get a cpu early and posted on reddit.
No idea who/where he is. But im taking naps to wake up early.
yeah, that time it was some encoding benchmarks that all intel partizans kept repeating, saying how gaming is for children. How times change
Unless you are a kid with RGB everything and "gaming" memory/mobos/mice and keyboards, gaming should generally be a secondary concern.
This honestly annoys me. I was reading the AMD subreddit on the becnhmarks and I swear 98% of the posts were about gaming results, with many of them calling Zen 2 a failure. Meanwhile, the 12 core Zen just about matches a 32 core TR in Handbrake. That is insane!
I didn't know I was buying a console, I thought I was buying a CPU for a computer that can do many things. In most things, it looks like Zen 2 will be the winner. In gaming, it looks like it will be more than enough to not make a difference. I don't understand the hate.
Unless you are a kid with RGB everything and "gaming" memory/mobos/mice and keyboards, gaming should generally be a secondary concern.
That was something else that was annoying. It was near impossible to find a good AM4 mobo without it being "gaming" this and that and stupid designs and lights everywhere. In the end I ended up getting a more conservative gaming board because I wasn't paying for Taichi and the cheaper regular boards had crummy VRM's.
That would be BST (British Summer Time) instead of GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) wouldn't it?9am Eastern = 2PM UK.
I'm sorry but regardless of how many people have done that, that is just moronic in a lot of cases.I don't think I can undersell the importance of gaming on the desktop. It's pretty much why the desktop isn't dead honestly. Most consumers that aren't interested in discrete level gaming have moved on to laptops.
I don't think I can undersell the importance of gaming on the desktop. It's pretty much why the desktop isn't dead honestly. Most consumers that aren't interested in discrete level gaming have moved on to laptops.
The processor seems to be running almost constantly at 4200 with very little downclocking while still remaining in the 65W TDP. The ram as stated before is only running at 2133 cl15 since Asus apparently can't release a proper bios for their flagship x470
Cinebench runs - with 2133 RAM as that is the only speed my ch7 lets me boot at(lots of problems with latest bios 2406)
War Thunder - tank benchmark cpu intensive with everything maxed out 95 min 110avg 6333points (much better than my 2700x at 4.2 with 3533 cl14 ram)
Battlefield 5 - did not get actual numers yet ...but i can say that even with the low ram speed(2133) it is faster than my 2700x at 4.2 with 3533 cl14 ram
more will come throught the night ....i will not be posting many numbers since i would like for the proper reviewers to do that but i will give you averages and my personal impression compared to a 2700x with 3533 at cl14
Phones have kinda killed tablets, honestly. Android tablets today are just netflix and youtube machines.Or tablets
I don't think I can undersell the importance of gaming on the desktop. It's pretty much why the desktop isn't dead honestly. Most consumers that aren't interested in discrete level gaming have moved on to laptops.
For Cinebench, well memory speed is quite irrelevant for CPU score.
https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2019/06/amd-ryzen-5-3600-x570-review/
https://elchapuzasinformatico.com/2019/06/amd-ryzen-5-3600-x470-review/
Correct.That would be BST (British Summer Time) instead of GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) wouldn't it?
Zen 2 yields over 85%: TSMC is doing a very good job
According to our sources, the yields of Zen 2 are enhancing quickly. Three months ago we wrote that Zen 2 yields (100% fully working chip) were about 70%. Today, yields are about 85%!
Zen 2 yields are still a little bit lower than Zeppelin ones (Today at +90%), but at this rate Zen 2 will be inexpensive to produce. TSMC 7nm yields are near 16nm yields (Source), and 7nm wafer cost is now under 10k Dollar (IBS Research).
What the hell is going on with that dudes hand?
Edit: 2 fingers in that bag, now it makes more sense but holy nail clip and do something about the cut/worn skin dude
I don't think I can undersell the importance of gaming on the desktop. It's pretty much why the desktop isn't dead honestly. Most consumers that aren't interested in discrete level gaming have moved on to laptops.
Gaming is important I agree, but so is the professional market. Even if Zen 2 doesn't fully match Intel when it comes to gaming, Zen 2 will be a total success because of how strong Zen 2 is in content maker type workloads.
I mean, the 3900x alone just made Intel's entire HEDT lineup irrelevant (outside of a few applications that can leverage AVX-512), let alone future Threadripper CPUs based on the Zen 2 core.
It is important but not the only reason desktop is still alive. First, there are other uses for discrete GPU's besides gaming. Second, in terms of upgradeability and troubleshooting, a desktop is way better/easier. Also, the cost of entry is cheaper. Not to mention you don't need the added cost of a docking station to make things more convenient. You are also never at the mercy of a small screen either. If I'm using a laptop at work I will need two real monitors or I'd be very unhappy.
A laptop with some nice monitors and a docking station is great, but it will cost more and be slower. Besides, I rarely take my laptop to meetings. When I used to travel more, I had a separate laptop for that. Laptops make more sense in the business world, but most people who use them at home (that I know) leave them in the same place and plugged in 99% of the time, except students.
That's true for sure, but that's more the workstation market. Gotta get Dell/Lenovo/etc on board to adopt Threadripper for their workstation machines and not just ignore it like they are now. Dell does sell Threadripper but only Alienware (lol)
As much as the OEM's are to blame, and they certainly are, AMD's marketing is pretty piss poor. Threadripper might work for the consumer HEDT market but they should've used something more conservative for their workstation line (I understand they are the same thing). Even Epyc isn't all that great. It's not bad and I'm OK with it, and it sounds way better than Threadripper at least in the business world.
Hopefully TR will make a name for itself and begin to be more sought after for workstation use. AMD's marketing though, meh, with the latest example being "GameCache". That's the worst of the bunch by far.
All that said, I'd rather have the engineering side of a company putting out great products with crummy marketing than an awesome marketing team having to push crummy products.
To be fair, has any *non Apple* tech marketing been that great?