Speculation: Ryzen 4000 series/Zen 3

[Markfw]

Oh crap. My bad, @Markfw. I keep forgetting you lost your hearing at some point in your life. I just mentioned it because Steve from Gamers Nexus has been poking fun at Intel's inferiority complex because they only mentioned their 11th gen Tigerlake mobile product maybe twice in an entire 1.5 hour presentation, compared to AMD's 4800U maybe 40ish times. My bad!

BTW, I lost my hearing not even 2 years ago to cancer drugs.

 

[darkswordsman17]

BTW, I lost my hearing not even 2 years ago to cancer drugs.

Damn.

Funny thing, a murder podcast I listen to brought up F@H. Wasn't related to the episode (was actually during their "weekly distraction" part), but one of the hosts mentioned he happened to look it up to see if it was still a thing and saw it was and was even being used to help with COVID, but he only had some older laptop I think.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Oh I agree. I don’t think Zen 3 needs any clock speed improvements.

It does in the all-core clocks department.

 

[3zero3]

BTW, I lost my hearing not even 2 years ago to cancer drugs.

Hi, Mark. I have hearing problems, too. So, I always switch on CC when is available (Youtube). Hope helps You, too.

 

[Markfw]

Hi, Mark. I have hearing problems, too. So, I always switch on CC when is available (Youtube). Hope helps You, too.

I am DEAF, not hard of hearing. Not all videos have CC

 

[trexfromouterspace]

Isn't the 4800U a Renoir AMD chip ? Does Intel have one named the same ?

He's joking about how much Intel talked about the 4800u during the tiger lake event

 

[Markfw]

He's joking about how much Intel talked about the 4800u during the tiger lake event

Thanks. I saw the replies above. I think that was because the 4800U is so competitive that Intel is really worried. Before Tiger lake it was ahead, and now its almost even.

 

[trexfromouterspace]

Thanks. I saw the replies above. I think that was because the 4800U is so competitive that Intel is really worried. Before Tiger lake it was ahead, and now its almost even.

Oops on my part, I keep forgetting that the forum doesn't always take you to the last page when you click a thread.

 

[Chicken76]

...All the current laptops are good for what I do, AMD or Intel. All my serious work is done on desktop or server CPUs. I just do email and facebook with my laptop, and only when I am traveling.

What are you implying Sir, that you don't need AVX-512 on your mobile devices? That is blasphemy!

 

[cytg111]

Still...no...leaks....
daily refreshing this thread is getting grrrrrr...

 

[JujuFish]

Still...no...leaks....
daily refreshing this thread is getting grrrrrr...

Haha. I'm right there with you.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Found some Leeks!

Leek - Wikipedia

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[Asterox]

Still...no...leaks....
daily refreshing this thread is getting grrrrrr...

Ok, now you can dance all night.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1304289032327708672

 

[eek2121]

It does in the all-core clocks department.

The all core boost is fine. Take an XT chip for a spin. The ones I have tested have no issue hitting 4.4-4.5 ghz depending on the workload. Sure heavier workloads will mean lower clocks, but that is also the case on Intel chips. If you are talking about a high all-core overclock I can’t help you there.

EDIT: I suspect AMD is attempting to push TDP down, but if they wanted they could release a few 125W TDP chips with a more aggressive boost. I do hope we get a 65W 12-16 core offering, however.

 

[KompuKare]

Found some Leeks!

Leek - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Maybe there's an opening for a youtube leeker with a strong Welsh accent to counteract AdoredTV's strong Scottish accent which American's find hard to understand?

 

[DrMrLordX]

The ones I have tested have no issue hitting 4.4-4.5 ghz depending on the workload.

None of the XT reviews reflect that. Unless that's the boost for idling or something. My 3900x won't even hit 4200 MHz in most all-core scenarios where you actually want the chip to do work (it'll do 4175 MHz in CBR20, and around there in Blender), and I don't think the 3900XT boosts any higher than that. Picking up a few hundred extra MHz in applications like that would be good for Zen3. N7+ makes it more than possible.

 

[VirtualLarry]

None of the XT reviews reflect that. Unless that's the boost for idling or something. My 3900x won't even hit 4200 MHz in most all-core scenarios where you actually want the chip to do work (it'll do 4175 MHz in CBR20, and around there in Blender), and I don't think the 3900XT boosts any higher than that. Picking up a few hundred extra MHz in applications like that would be good for Zen3. N7+ makes it more than possible.

Here's hoping! (*raises :beer: emoticon)
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[A///]

I've seen people claim they've got 4.4 all core on their 3900X. I've even seen one person claim they got 4.5 all core on less than 1.3. Either they're lying or "won" the lottery. Here's to hoping AMD did something crazy and Igor wasn't blowing smoke anyone's butt.

 

[DrMrLordX]

I've seen people claim they've got 4.4 all core on their 3900X. I've even seen one person claim they got 4.5 all core on less than 1.3. Either they're lying or "won" the lottery. Here's to hoping AMD did something crazy and Igor wasn't blowing smoke anyone's butt.

That's overclocking. I'm talking boost clocks. My 3900X will do 4.4 GHz all-core static OC (okay, more like 4350 Mhz for serious work), but the boost algo won't go that high.

 

[A///]

That's overclocking. I'm talking boost clocks. My 3900X will do 4.4 GHz all-core static OC (okay, more like 4350 Mhz for serious work), but the boost algo won't go that high.

Ah. No idea. I know very few people IRL or online who own 3900Xs.. which is weird considering how great the price point is. I've read meh reports on the XT hitting high boosts for long periods of time but I've also heard the complete opposite.

 

[leoneazzurro]

By the way, as the ZEN3 CPU now supports up to 1Terabyte of RAM, there are chances the I/O die is at least a revised version of the one found in Zen2.

 

[Paul98]

I am excited both to see where the new chips land and if they can take the gaming crown which I see as very likely considering how close it was already, and hopefully see a good drop in the 3950x or 3900x. I am finally upgrading my GPU from an R9 290 by the end of the year with a 3080 or big Navi, and need a new CPU to go with it, currently running an 1700 on an x370

 

[Kenmitch]

Some info.

Ryzen 4000 Detailed: Purported AMD Confidential Documents Outline Zen 3's Inner Workings

A teaser before October 8.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[richierich1212]

One CCX now?

 

[Ajay]

One CCX now?

Yeah, per CCD. Looks like there will still be a max of 2 CCDs per CPU.