I'm just going to drop this in here for some evidence of the staying power of good old Haswell-E.
Not sure if it makes much difference, but you're comparing 1080P Crazy results on your system to 4K Crazy results from others.
edit: okay I see a few people two pages ago comparing 1080P Crazy results. Interesting that your 5960X appears to be beating stock 10900k results as well.
The benchmarks for both 1080p Crazy and 4k Crazy have been circulating. This post has the 1080p Crazy results.
RAM speed also makes a difference in that benchmark, yeah.Not sure if it makes much difference, but you're comparing 1080P Crazy results on your system to 4K Crazy results from others.
edit: okay I see a few people two pages ago comparing 1080P Crazy results. Interesting that your 5960X appears to be beating stock 10900k results as well.
@Zucker2k
Looks like system tuning is a factor. Look at the "tuned" 10920X and 10700k results:
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The Intel i9-10900k has an 88% model number advantage over the 5800X, the only metric that really matters.Intel will just say the only number that matters is TDP and Intel win there.
Looks interesting so far. The 8th can't come soon enough. Of course some more leaks would be welcomed.
I have a 3700x currently and debating on upgrading it. I don't really need more power, but the tinkerer in me is interested. I guess it depends on the pricing in the end. I can always kick down the 3700x to my son's rig and sell off his 3600 to offset the cost.
It would be nice to see how far my b-die kit will go. It was a pointless adventure with the 3700x once the 1:2 divider kicked in. I figure somewhere around 4000-4200MHz @ C16 is doable.
Where did this come from? Is this supposed to be zen 3? If so then they have made some great leaps and strides. Even if this is comet lake I think this is still interesting, and incredible if zen 3 hits 5.1ghz. Here's zen 2 for reference.
thats not really correct , if 1T is your game you cant really beat PBO but if all core is your game you can get a fair bit. Games are more and more multicore/thread so we will have to see the exact head room with zen3.It looks better, but I'm still doubting it will beat an OC'd Intel chip in gaming. Ryzen has always been bad at overclocking, so I'm assuming the performance out of the box is the best you will get, while Intel's chips will give you another what, 20% with OC? That overclocking potential matters a ton for enthusiast gamers. It makes all the difference really. We'll see.
Intel (circa 2006) allowed a 100% OC. But lately, its about the same as AMD, 2-5% ?It looks better, but I'm still doubting it will beat an OC'd Intel chip in gaming. Ryzen has always been bad at overclocking, so I'm assuming the performance out of the box is the best you will get, while Intel's chips will give you another what, 20% with OC? That overclocking potential matters a ton for enthusiast gamers. It makes all the difference really. We'll see.
Can't beat the old Celeron 300A overclocking and teaming dual CPU on dedicated Abit motherboard. So were the times...Intel (circa 2006) allowed a 100% OC. But lately, its about the same as AMD, 2-5% ?
Core 2 Duo OC was highly dependent on your chipset. Better chipsets offered a lot more headroom. You could easily add 800 Mhz to your processor speed. It was common to buy the E6600 to get to E6700 speeds. They were pretty much the same processor with a different multipier and the $200 price difference. Often times, the E6600 clocked better than the E6700. There were people getting awful clock to 4 Ghz in those days with slightly higher vcores.Intel (circa 2006) allowed a 100% OC. But lately, its about the same as AMD, 2-5% ?
That is a name I haven't heard in a long time.Abit
Yep, still remember my KT7, KT7A, KG7 etc.That is a name I haven't heard in a long time.
Yep, still remember my KT7, KT7A, KG7 etc.
Duron 650@850... Long time ago 😃
* Nostalgia *
Yes, I would say between the day of announcement and release if not right after the announcement if it goes up for sale later that day or a day or two after. If the processor in the test was a review chip and a score of new BIOSes people published, then it's very likely reviewers have or are in the process of getting processors to test for reviews.Will we see any reviews of the new processors before release?
You will be able to flash your bios with just a USB stick and your motherboard connected to a power supply.I bought the MSI X570 Tomahawk back in August but have been waiting for the new Zen 3 CPU's before building my new system...would I be able to flash the BIOS before installing the CPU?...can I flash it with the new Zen 3 CPU installed?...I don't have any spare AMD CPU's lying around as I'm currently using an older Intel i7 CPU
You will be able to flash your bios with just a USB stick and your motherboard connected to a power supply.
Your manual covers this.
AMD is not in the same league with Intel when it comes to overclocking.Intel (circa 2006) allowed a 100% OC. But lately, its about the same as AMD, 2-5% ?
AMD is not in the same league with Intel when it comes to overclocking.