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Originally posted by: dna
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Originally posted by: The Green Bean
This is almost like claiming divinity by on the basis of lesser evil.</end quote></div>
Sure, if you turn it inside out and look at it through a mirror.
<div class="FTQUOTE"><begin quote>So you believe not even one death was Bush's fault? It was an illegal war not sanctioned by the U.N based on lies. Every death should be treated as murder.</end quote></div>
Gee -- absolving Arabs from reponsibility (yet again) while blaming Bush, or not -- what a tough call....
As for "UN sanctioned wars", many countries in the Middle East have started ones against the-ones-who-shall-not-be-named, and I don't recall the UN jumping up to condemn those actions as murders.
Perhaps it would best if you keep the UN card deep in the socks drawer.
Anyway, I noticed you employ Narmer-ian tactics by ignoring the
video I linked to.</end quote></div>
QFT. So many who are extereme Bush haters (I despise him on several issues, but not blindly) get up on their bully pulpit crying "The world didnt support us!" (which is bullsh1t)..."The UN didnt sanction it!" etc...yet with the other side of their mouth criticize the UN...which one is it? Who friggin cares what the UN thinks...seriously...
We as humans tend to pick and choose "facts" no matter what the source to validate our own personal "feel good" opinion. The problem is there are so many sides to an issue, there isnt really a right or wrong one. It's all subjective. And of course, those one side claim the ones on the other are blind, paranoid, sheeple, and on and on and on. So who is "right"? If both sides can prove their point, who is "right"? One sides "source" is another side's laughingstock.
It's always been that way, it always will be. Why this futile effort to change people? Whats wrong with acceptance? You claim acceptance as long as you agree with it.
As for the OP, my explaination above applies to governments actions as well. The Chinese think their's is best. The US thinks their's is best. The muslim countries think their's is best. The dictatorships think their's is best. But it's all subjective. Again, not only can you NOT prove it, it would be futile to try. The world IS the way it IS. Going back thousands of years have proven this, and we really arent any different now than we were 1000 years ago. War is, and always will be, around. There's all this naive talk of coming together in peace...negotiating...working it out over a cup of tea. It's useless. We as humans can not, nor will be ever, be on the same page in regards to whats best for ourselves, our country, and other countries.
Do you all REALLY think another president will be any different? I mean honestly...do you? It's not about sides, its not about political parties. Not really. It's about us as a people. Our next president will hated and have eyes rolled at like this one. And the last one. And the one before that. Get real people. Your grandios ideas of any candidate being any different is absurd.