SQL Pronounciation w/poll

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray
In my experience in the professional world, those who have any real knowledge to share about the subject always use S-Q-L, people who reads terms to mention in interviews and conversation say SEQUAL, and 15 year olds say SQUEAL.

Being in the professional IT world for many many years now, I can say without a doubt its pronounced SEQUEL to anyone "in the know".
 

randay

Lifer
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S-Q-L, only noobs try and pronounce "sql". also it would be "skyul" instead of "sequel". noobs.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Atheus
es kew el

I always correct people who say sequal.

Disagreeing is one thing, but correcting is a bit much I think... it makes you look pedantic, and that's not a good thing.


Is it that big a deal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
During the 1970s, a group at IBM's San Jose research center developed a database system "System R" based upon, but not strictly faithful to, Codd's model. Structured English Query Language ("SEQUEL") was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in System R. The acronym SEQUEL was later condensed to SQL because the word 'SEQUEL' was held as a trademark by the Hawker-Siddeley aircraft company of the UK.
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: NuclearNed
Originally posted by: GeneralDisarray
In my experience in the professional world, those who have any real knowledge to share about the subject always use S-Q-L, people who reads terms to mention in interviews and conversation say SEQUAL, and 15 year olds say SQUEAL.

My experience says the exact opposite - its always the fresh out of school newbies that say S-Q-L, while we older dogs say "sequel".

This has been my experience too. Sequel is easier to say, saying S-Q-L over and over again becomes tiresome. I work on Oracle DBs though, and when I say PL/SQL It's P-L-S-Q-L, not PL Sequel.

And My-S-Q-L, not MySequal, in my experience.

Although everyone says Scuzzy...
 

Rock Hydra

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Dec 13, 2004
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Originally posted by: Nocturnal
SEE-KWA-ALL

The way people pronounce SATA is another one. I just say SAY-TA instead of spelling it out, S-A-T-A!

Oh yeah? I say Serial ATA, n00b.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
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Originally posted by: randay
S-Q-L, only noobs try and pronounce "sql". also it would be "skyul" instead of "sequel". noobs.

Noobs in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

What kind of noob says Ess-Kew-Ell? It's See-Kwul.
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Atheus
Originally posted by: spidey07
Thirded. Only noobies spell it out.

You're a network guy though right? Not a programmer.

Yeah, but I work with a lot of experienced application/DB folks. Tell them how to write their queries and DBs better because they're supremely inefficient.

You mean you don't like it when I select an entire table and filter it on the client side?
 

spidey07

No Lifer
Aug 4, 2000
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Originally posted by: mugs
You mean you don't like it when I select an entire table and filter it on the client side?

Happens all the time. I'm tired of telling app people to "fix your goddammed app"
 

Atheus

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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Atheus
es kew el

I always correct people who say sequal.

Disagreeing is one thing, but correcting is a bit much I think... it makes you look pedantic, and that's not a good thing.

It's ok, I_am_ pedantic

I seriously had no idea so many people say sequal though, everyone I know says SQL - I only corrected a few people to stop them looking like idiots.
 

Gunslinger08

Lifer
Nov 18, 2001
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Sequel. Every technical person or client I've ever dealt with calls it sequel. We generally prefer to be efficient rather than grammatically correct.
 

randay

Lifer
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its official, we have a nerd-off. all the S-Q-L noobs to the right, and the sequel noobs to the left. protractors at pi paces!
 

mugs

Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: Atheus
It's ok, I_am_ pedantic

I seriously had no idea so many people say sequal though, everyone I know says SQL - I only corrected a few people to stop them looking like idiots.

I guess you guys do things differently over there
 

ppdes

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May 16, 2004
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Originally posted by: mugs
Is it that big a deal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
During the 1970s, a group at IBM's San Jose research center developed a database system "System R" based upon, but not strictly faithful to, Codd's model. Structured English Query Language ("SEQUEL") was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in System R. The acronym SEQUEL was later condensed to SQL because the word 'SEQUEL' was held as a trademark by the Hawker-Siddeley aircraft company of the UK.

Heh, if you read further you see that Wikipedia claims the ANSI standard pronunciation is S-Q-L...
 

xcript

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Apr 3, 2003
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S-Q-L

Hearing it pronounced "sequel" is almost as irritating as hearing "/etc" pronounced "et-see", or Gnome pronounced "guh-nome" (I realize here it's the official pronunciation, but that doesn't make it any less annoying).
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: ppdes
Originally posted by: mugs
Is it that big a deal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
During the 1970s, a group at IBM's San Jose research center developed a database system "System R" based upon, but not strictly faithful to, Codd's model. Structured English Query Language ("SEQUEL") was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in System R. The acronym SEQUEL was later condensed to SQL because the word 'SEQUEL' was held as a trademark by the Hawker-Siddeley aircraft company of the UK.

Heh, if you read further you see that Wikipedia claims the ANSI standard pronunciation is S-Q-L...

I was just saying that sequel is obviously a valid pronunciation - it was the original pronunciation. Standards are nice and all, but as long as everyone knows what you're talking about it's no big deal.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: spidey07
Ummm.....

/etc is always referred to as "et-see"

And #! = shabang
Or at worst "hash bang"
Nobody says "pound sign exclamation point"
 

xcript

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Apr 3, 2003
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: spidey07
Ummm.....

/etc is always referred to as "et-see"

And #! = shabang
Or at worst "hash bang"
Nobody says "pound sign exclamation point"

Yeah, I've been saying shabang for ages (perl) and string for $ (basic), etc. but /etc "always" being referred to as "et-see" is pure bollocks.
 

spidey07

No Lifer
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Originally posted by: xcript
Yeah, I've been saying shabang for ages (perl) and string for $ (basic), etc. but /etc "always" being referred to as "et-see" is pure bollocks.

Says the man that uses "bollocks" in a sentence or even says it.

Chrikey!
 

nakedfrog

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Been a web developer/DB guy for six years, and the vast majority of the time I hear/say Sequel. Sometimes I say Skull just to throw a monkeywrench in the works
 

JS80

Lifer
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Originally posted by: mugs
Originally posted by: Atheus
es kew el

I always correct people who say sequal.

Disagreeing is one thing, but correcting is a bit much I think... it makes you look pedantic, and that's not a good thing.


Is it that big a deal?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL
During the 1970s, a group at IBM's San Jose research center developed a database system "System R" based upon, but not strictly faithful to, Codd's model. Structured English Query Language ("SEQUEL") was designed to manipulate and retrieve data stored in System R. The acronym SEQUEL was later condensed to SQL because the word 'SEQUEL' was held as a trademark by the Hawker-Siddeley aircraft company of the UK.

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