Squating/shoe question

[brad310]

Got the rogues and wore them for the first time this morning. It did seem easier to hit the depth and a more comfortable squat overall. I did increase the weight, but i dont know if that credit goes to the shoe or not.

I wore them for bench and power clean as well. They definitely are an improvement in the power clean, feels much stronger. I'd say they benefitted me as much in the PC as the squat.

You cant really walk in them though, they're that specific. I wore tennis shoes in and changed on the floor.

Assuming they last, they will have been a good investment.

 

[spamsk8r]

Weightlifting shoes were definitely one of the best investments for my training, hands down.

 

[coreyb]

you can walk in them, give it time.

 

[Koing]

Got the rogues and wore them for the first time this morning. It did seem easier to hit the depth and a more comfortable squat overall. I did increase the weight, but i dont know if that credit goes to the shoe or not.

I wore them for bench and power clean as well. They definitely are an improvement in the power clean, feels much stronger. I'd say they benefitted me as much in the PC as the squat.

You cant really walk in them though, they're that specific. I wore tennis shoes in and changed on the floor.

Assuming they last, they will have been a good investment.

Oly shoes aren't made for walking. Only wear them in the gym and they will last a lot longer.

They will suit all exercises that don't require you to run so general gym wear but more benefit where you need a steady base like the olifts, squats and over head work.

I have 4 pairs

2 Nike Romaleos
1 Adistars 04
1 old skool Adidas ones back in 2000, my mate still has these!

Koing

 

[Insomniator]

Keep trying with chucks.

Practicing in front of a wall without any weight helped me a lot. Get into your squat stance (heels shoulder-width apart, feet kicked out at about 30 degrees) and squat down without your knees touching the wall. Your nose will likely be about to touch when you're at the bottom.

Wait... should one start with there toes touching the wall for this to make sure knees don't go past the toes?

I just tried and thats impossible.

 

[Howard]

Wait... should one start with there toes touching the wall for this to make sure knees don't go past the toes?

I just tried and thats impossible.

Don't do it on the wall, you'll fall over. Find something that isn't much taller than your knees so that your upper body can lean forward.

 

[Koing]

Wait... should one start with there toes touching the wall for this to make sure knees don't go past the toes?

I just tried and thats impossible.

An oly high bar squat your hips want to sit inbetween where your feet are. You want your knees to track over your toes. It's BS that your knees aren't suppose to go over your knees. Your knees will go over your toes when you walk up stairs.

A powerlifting squat is very different to an oly high bar squat where you want to be as upright as possible. This is to make it more applicable to receive a Clean. You can't receive a Clean if your hips are sitting back and your leaning forwards.

Koing

 

[brad310]

Now that I've got a number of workouts with the rogue do-wins, let me say that i dont think i can squat properly without them. What seemed to be my problem besides having poor flexibility in my upper torso, is that i have poor flexibility in my ankles. The heel hight really helps this, as does turning my toes outwards at more of a 45 degree angle and taking a bit wider stance. Now that I've got my form where I want it, what I think im discovering besides my lack of flexibility is that I have proportionlly weaker hips...i suppose from doing only the leg press and never really doing a squat until recently.

I do also have to do the high bar because of my chest/shoulder tightness...pushing my elbows back with my hands on the bar just makes my torso go forward, especially when i have a load on. I tried and tried to make low bar work, but i guess it just isnt for my body.

Anyway, back to the shoe - i might actually like a slightly taller heel even more, but these meet the goal and i wont consider replacing them until they fall apart, which may never happen. I say the taller heel because i think that .75 inch lift is all it took to fix my form, and a little more might help drive straight through the heel. I'll just say that I cant and wont squat without them. Ill agree with some others now and say that shoes are the most important peice of equipment you can buy.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

Now that I've got a number of workouts with the rogue do-wins, let me say that i dont think i can squat properly without them. What seemed to be my problem besides having poor flexibility in my upper torso, is that i have poor flexibility in my ankles. The heel hight really helps this, as does turning my toes outwards at more of a 45 degree angle and taking a bit wider stance. Now that I've got my form where I want it, what I think im discovering besides my lack of flexibility is that I have proportionlly weaker hips...i suppose from doing only the leg press and never really doing a squat until recently.

I do also have to do the high bar because of my chest/shoulder tightness...pushing my elbows back with my hands on the bar just makes my torso go forward, especially when i have a load on. I tried and tried to make low bar work, but i guess it just isnt for my body.

Anyway, back to the shoe - i might actually like a slightly taller heel even more, but these meet the goal and i wont consider replacing them until they fall apart, which may never happen. I say the taller heel because i think that .75 inch lift is all it took to fix my form, and a little more might help drive straight through the heel. I'll just say that I cant and wont squat without them. Ill agree with some others now and say that shoes are the most important peice of equipment you can buy.

You should probably work on your calf mobility, rather than rely completely on a shoe. A 3/4" heel is already massive for lifting - thinking about higher just tells me you have very limited dorsiflexion. If you foam roll your calf and stretch, you'll become less limited.

 

[Nebor]

I wouldn't worry about it. Form isn't too important, just concentrate on increasing weight.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

I wouldn't worry about it. Form isn't too important, just concentrate on increasing weight.

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