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Dorkenstein

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Newegg. I went trawling other forums and sites and found dozens and dozens of other people complaining of the same thing while 'Egg representatives occasionally popped their heads in an tried to placate people. I then contacted live support with serious business in mind, but the rep told me that it was shipped from a california warehouse with the RMA address in case delivery was refused and the package was never delivered. But he insisted that it was new and not used. So I took a leap of faith and opened the envelope (yup, an SSD in an envelope) and examined the box inside. It looked pretty near immaculate, the seals were also intact.

In hindsight though, I still feel like this is kind of up in the air. I only have an Egg rep's word that it's not used. Of course, once they can squeeze a word in edgewise they ask you if they completely solved the issue for me (which lets them wash their hands of it, maybe?) and I said yes, but I should have asked more questions. So, not sure what to do now. Could be fine for all I know.
 

taltamir

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it just occurred to me... I have done that before.. you sit there opening every single item in stock, upgrading / fixing it quickly, then packing it in a BRAND NEW box... You think intel can't ship newegg 500 brand new boxes to package them in to look as new? and honestly, it is new... it is not that someone USED IT, but most likely employees just took each one and flashed the firmware then packaged it.
That is, if intel has a deal with newegg to have newegg employees do that for compensation instead of intel themselves doing it...

This ofcouse assumes you got it with latest firmware...
 

Dorkenstein

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Ah, I'm sorry if I mislead you. I bought the shell shocker Super Talent Ultra Drive ME, not an Intel. I just need to find out how to flash the firmware before I install windows on it and start using it for prime time functions.
 

taltamir

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ok in that case i have no idea what is going on with them...

check the smart data... or use undelete of sorts to see if it has been used
 

Dorkenstein

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Yup, I'll give it a try. Hopefully my doing so doesn't give the Eggmen cause to deny me an RMA. Never actually had to do it until potentially now, so I'm not sure of what flaming hoops I'll have to vault through.
 

Elixer

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Newegg. I went trawling other forums and sites and found dozens and dozens of other people complaining of the same thing while 'Egg representatives occasionally popped their heads in an tried to placate people. I then contacted live support with serious business in mind, but the rep told me that it was shipped from a california warehouse with the RMA address in case delivery was refused and the package was never delivered. But he insisted that it was new and not used. So I took a leap of faith and opened the envelope (yup, an SSD in an envelope) and examined the box inside. It looked pretty near immaculate, the seals were also intact.

In hindsight though, I still feel like this is kind of up in the air. I only have an Egg rep's word that it's not used. Of course, once they can squeeze a word in edgewise they ask you if they completely solved the issue for me (which lets them wash their hands of it, maybe?) and I said yes, but I should have asked more questions. So, not sure what to do now. Could be fine for all I know.


Hmm, couldn't you run something like CrystalDiskInfo, and it should show you power on count / power on hours. (That is, assuming SSDs have that info, and I never bothered to check it at work.)
 

Dorkenstein

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I have no idea, it's worth a try. I'm betting it's brand new, but I am definitely going to do some digging when I get it installed.
 

MoonMouse

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I received two UltraDrive 64GB from the sale last week (one each from Newegg & SuperBiiz). I downloaded CrystalDiskInfo from http://crystalmark.info/?lang=en and both showed the have Firmware 1711. The "Supported Features" detected were S.M.A.R.T., 48-bit LBA, NCQ, and TRIM. The Power OnCount/OnHours were listed as Unknown / 0 hours respectively.
 

taltamir

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maybe they did perform a firmware upgrade than... or they were brand new...
Why would newegg deny you an RMA? why would you RMA it if it is new?
If it shows to be used (make sure it wasn't YOU who used it... that is something you should have done before)... Than post asking for suggestion, and you will get many... but I wouldn't bother with it until you have something more concrete than the return address...
 

Dorkenstein

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Hi Taltamir, I was purely speculating out of pessimism, not being serious.

EDIT: I just looked through ST's SSD support section and I don't even see the firmware I might need. They tell you which download you need according to serial number. There's no guide for the serial number my drive has. Anyone else experience this?
 

Dorkenstein

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Another question. I just ran the windows experience index on my pc with the os on the SSD. Everything else in my system received a 7.4 score. The "primary disk", which I am guessing is the SSD received merely a 7.0. Is this normal or not? What gives? Thanks.
 

betaflame

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7.0 is very high. fast magnetic disks get about a 5.0+, and magnetic raid0's get about a 6.0. You should use a real benchmark though.
 

Dorkenstein

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Are the caching options that usually help out magnetic disks detrimental or useless for SSDs? I'm talking about the options in Device Manager.
 

alcoholbob

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7.3 I believe is the typical score for a 120GB Indilinix drive with ICHR10. The difference between the 120 and 60 should not be that significant. I'm not sure what SATA chipset you have, you might have ICHR9 which may be capping your score.
 

renozi

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Are the caching options that usually help out magnetic disks detrimental or useless for SSDs? I'm talking about the options in Device Manager.

The consensus is to check that box meaning turn off cache buffer flushing, but when I went to uncheck it my speeds when up ever so much and my reboot time dropped 3 seconds. So it's all up to experimentation I guess?
 

taltamir

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Originally posted by: Dorkenstein
Another question. I just ran the windows experience index on my pc with the os on the SSD. Everything else in my system received a 7.4 score. The "primary disk", which I am guessing is the SSD received merely a 7.0. Is this normal or not? What gives? Thanks.

In some categories the first digit is based on "features detected", the second digit is based on performance testing. In other categories it has other meanings... the performance index is rather convoluted and not very accurate IMAO

Mine has 7.2 for everything but disk, which shows 7.7 (intel X25-M 80GB G2)

http://windowsteamblog.com/blo...-an-in-depth-look.aspx
 

Dorkenstein

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Enabling caching and turning off cache flushing. I don't know what the cons are for this choice, and it only bumped me up .1 points, so I'm pretty ambivalent about it.
 

garbageacc3

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hi,

does anyone know if trim will be supported by the intel x25-m when i'm running it as a non raid member on a raid controller (i have 3 WD 640gb , 2 are in raid 0, and 1 is non raid member boot drive)?

in my mobo bios (p5q pro) i have to set my config as raid, and i'm not sure if trim on the x25 will work through my onboard raid controller.

thanks
 

ilkhan

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Im at 6.9 for everything but HDD, which is 5.9. Guess Ill jump a full point when I get the G2 in.
 

flexy

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7.4 everything except SSD at 7.0...and with the SDD i got to 7.0 from my old Hitachi which had a lame 5.9. I switched to AHCI now...who knows, maybe this might bump it even more. I also think that storage space plays a role in WEI...so if there's not enough space available you will never get TOP WEI, even with the fastest SSD.

Edit: WOOHOO...running the SSD in AHCI mode pushed me to 7.3
 
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