Staples.com Maxtor SATA 200GB 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive with PCI Card Bundle

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nomadh

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None of us are likely to use enough harddrives to get a good statistical representation here. I'll just take the companys word for it. Maxtor doesn't think their drives will last more than a year. Hitachi thinks theirs can go for 3 years and Seagate is willing to bet they can run for 5 years 24/7. Its not that I would never buy a Maxtor at this point. I used to buy them when they had 3 yr warr. The question is how much cheaper does a maxtor need to be before I take them up on such a weak bet. I can get 200gig 5yr for $50 AR. I guess I'd buy a maxtor 200gig 1/r for $30-40 AR or maybe $50-55 no rebate. Not too likely to do a rebate. Its alot of hassle for something the mfg tells me I will need to do again in a year. Thats not what I think its what they think. I've had 48 month car batteries that have lasted 60+ months but its amazing how many 48 month batteries died before 50 mo. and 72 month last around 72mo. My guess is seagate needs to keep returns under 5% for 5 yrs to keep from wiping out. For maxtor they must have been hitting 15% returns within 3 years and probably gave up on even hoping for 3 years when they dropped to a 1 yr warrenty. None of this even counts the value of your data and time.
Anyone know the actual return numbers? I'm just guessing/estimating.
 

Kwad Guy

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Originally posted by: Brutis84
maxtor drives last 1yr and 1 month guaranteed

Aren't you overestimating the lifetime by about 29 days?

My recent experience with Maxtor drives has been absolutely MISERABLE. And the experience of drive recovery centers mirrors this. It's possible that VERY recent Maxtor drives are better.

Seagate just bought Maxtor. I wonder what this will do to the Maxtor product line? Will it remain Seagate with premium 5 year warranty and Maxtor with "catch us if you can sucker" 1 year warranty?

Kwad

 

dorkbert

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Maxtor doesn't think their drives will last more than a year. Hitachi thinks theirs can go for 3 years and Seagate is willing to bet they can run for 5 years 24/7.
I don't think that's the case. What's more likely is that Seagate is clearing Maxtor inventory. Having long warranty period mean that they have to stock replacement parts, and my guess is that Seagate just doesn't want to deal with it.
 

Oakenfold

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Originally posted by: nomadh
None of us are likely to use enough harddrives to get a good statistical representation here. I'll just take the companys word for it. Maxtor doesn't think their drives will last more than a year. Hitachi thinks theirs can go for 3 years and Seagate is willing to bet they can run for 5 years 24/7. Its not that I would never buy a Maxtor at this point. I used to buy them when they had 3 yr warr. The question is how much cheaper does a maxtor need to be before I take them up on such a weak bet. I can get 200gig 5yr for $50 AR. I guess I'd buy a maxtor 200gig 1/r for $30-40 AR or maybe $50-55 no rebate. Not too likely to do a rebate. Its alot of hassle for something the mfg tells me I will need to do again in a year. Thats not what I think its what they think. I've had 48 month car batteries that have lasted 60+ months but its amazing how many 48 month batteries died before 50 mo. and 72 month last around 72mo. My guess is seagate needs to keep returns under 5% for 5 yrs to keep from wiping out. For maxtor they must have been hitting 15% returns within 3 years and probably gave up on even hoping for 3 years when they dropped to a 1 yr warrenty. None of this even counts the value of your data and time.
Anyone know the actual return numbers? I'm just guessing/estimating.

You are basing your hypothesis off a Retail drive warranty, go to circuit city, buy a western digital and you get a one year warranty. Buy an OEM maxtor from zip zoom fly and get a 3 year warranty. If you do a search under seagate in the hot deals forum you will see where they have been *altering* their drive warranty's, inadvertently or intentionally. It would be interesting to read the actual batch percentage of returns to compare apples to apples though, you bring up an interesting point, wonder if they release that info in their annual statements?
 

nomadh

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I hear WD have various warranty depending on oem/retail status but I have never heard that about maxtor. Funny you mention zzf warranty. Recently I bought from newegg just because zzf was lousy at mentioning what warranties their products carried. I guess I take it pretty seriously when purchasing. The other factor is how easyis it to do a warranty claim. Do they cross ship or do I spend $30 sending it to singapore where they take 3 months to decide it realy is broke but its my fault so they send it back as is?
How sure are you the 2 versions of the maxtor drives are the same? Same parts/bearings/ assembly line etc? If so thats the first positive news for maxtor I've heard in 3-5 years.
 

tallman45

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Originally posted by: nomadh
I hear WD have various warranty depending on oem/retail status but I have never heard that about maxtor. Funny you mention zzf warranty. Recently I bought from newegg just because zzf was lousy at mentioning what warranties their products carried. I guess I take it pretty seriously when purchasing. The other factor is how easyis it to do a warranty claim. Do they cross ship or do I spend $30 sending it to singapore where they take 3 months to decide it realy is broke but its my fault so they send it back as is?
How sure are you the 2 versions of the maxtor drives are the same? Same parts/bearings/ assembly line etc? If so thats the first positive news for maxtor I've heard in 3-5 years.


Maxtor does make enterprise rated drives, their Maxline III carries a 5yr warranty, Diamondmax 8 thru 11 have 3yr warranties
 

blackrain

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Everyone has a good or bad story about an HD. I guess i've been lucky. I've had the same WD and Maxtor 40 GB drives for over 3 years without any problems. It's nice to have a 5-year warranty, but this is a good deal without a 5 year warranty.
 

afty

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I'm currently running 3 Maxtor drives that are 2, 5, and 6 years old. They're all fine. Over the years, I've lost a total of 2 WD drives (<1 year) and 1 Maxtor (~5 years).
 

nutxo

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Ive only had one maxtor die, the pos.

I was putting together a machine and the drive slipped out of my hand. Being extremely clear minded my cat like reflexes kicked in. Everything went into slow motion. I saw the hard drive falling toward the floor and did what any smart person would do. I kicked it across the room where it struck the wall leaving a dent an inch deep.
 

JustinGoodie

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i must've just barely gotten in on this one, i ordered at about 12:30 today... also, they estimate delivery to be tomorrow!!
 

JustinGoodie

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UPDATE:
I recieved this email from staples earlier today...

Valued Staples Customer,

Re: Special Buy item :620597 200GB SATA INT HD PCI CARD BND 1ea

Please be advised that due to the high demand and current "Special Buy" our stock has been depleted
and cannot be re-ordered, backordered and no substitute is offered. The quantity ordered will not be
shipped and please note that you have not been charged for this item. The item may not be returning
to stock. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused.

We do offer other similar products at www.staples.com and in our catalogs that you may find
suitable. If you have any questions, please call Customer Service at 800-333-3330 and choose Option
2 for assistance.

Thank you for ordering with Staples.
Operations Support Department

Well, I guess that means I won't be getting the drive... bummer, that was a hell of a deal
 

JustinGoodie

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well, i was gonna use my onboard SATA controller, so all i really needed was the drive, thanks tho.

edit: now i'm looking at a 250gb WD with the 16mb cache from zipzoomfly for a hair under $100
 

imported_raulinigo

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Originally posted by: nomadh
None of us are likely to use enough harddrives to get a good statistical representation here. I'll just take the companys word for it. Maxtor doesn't think their drives will last more than a year. Hitachi thinks theirs can go for 3 years and Seagate is willing to bet they can run for 5 years 24/7. Its not that I would never buy a Maxtor at this point. I used to buy them when they had 3 yr warr. The question is how much cheaper does a maxtor need to be before I take them up on such a weak bet. I can get 200gig 5yr for $50 AR. I guess I'd buy a maxtor 200gig 1/r for $30-40 AR or maybe $50-55 no rebate. Not too likely to do a rebate. Its alot of hassle for something the mfg tells me I will need to do again in a year. Thats not what I think its what they think. I've had 48 month car batteries that have lasted 60+ months but its amazing how many 48 month batteries died before 50 mo. and 72 month last around 72mo. My guess is seagate needs to keep returns under 5% for 5 yrs to keep from wiping out. For maxtor they must have been hitting 15% returns within 3 years and probably gave up on even hoping for 3 years when they dropped to a 1 yr warrenty. None of this even counts the value of your data and time.
Anyone know the actual return numbers? I'm just guessing/estimating.
So did you buy some? Because after coupons, rewards, and taxes I picked two up for less than $58 each. But considering these come with the SATA/IDE pci card that you can sell and clear $10-$15 each, that puts these at $43-$48 each.... with no rebates. Pretty good deal by my (and apparently your) standards.



 

nutxo

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I got one of these for a customer that doesnt want it now.

Ill let it go for the 76 I paid plus 6 shipping ( paypal only, no echaecks )if anyone wants it. Otherwise it goes back tomorrow.
 

hytek369

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Originally posted by: nutxo
I got one of these for a customer that doesnt want it now.

Ill let it go for the 76 I paid plus 6 shipping if anyone wants it. Otherwise it goes back tomorrow.

nice offer
 

nutxo

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Originally posted by: hytek369
Originally posted by: nutxo
I got one of these for a customer that doesnt want it now.

Ill let it go for the 76 I paid plus 6 shipping if anyone wants it. Otherwise it goes back tomorrow.

nice offer

Thanks, It would be easier than a return. No one seems interested though.

 
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