Star Citizen: Chris Robert`s new space sim (the Wing Commander guy)

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maevinj

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Wow. People are actually paying 200.00 + for ships??? That's crazy.

So anybody think there will be a market for an original backer's account later on down the line?
 

Cyco-Dude

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Its one thing for people to be building a rig now but by the time this game gets out newer cards will be out. Better to save up and wait for it release before building a rig I'd say if you want a rig specifically for the game.
of course there will always be new hardware around the corner, but you have to get something eventually. remember that we'll be playing this game through the entire development process, one module at a time. you still need a current system, now.

Hmm wonder if I should plunk some coin for another 50 dollar ship with LTI on it.
if your intention is to sell your account later down the line, i'd say no. you can get everything in game with in-game credits. why would someone pay for something they can get themselves for free? lti is not such a massive perk as people think. at least, i'd think that most people will eventually get a new ship, and will be paying for insurance on it. i don't think it will be a big deal.
 

imaheadcase

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I just can't see myself spending anymore than base price since you can get all this stuff in game eventually. But i'm that way with most games.
 
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I'd like to get more but a) cash is tight b) as I said before we're really early game could take a horrible turn
 

Cyco-Dude

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that's perfectly fine, just get whatever base ship then go from there. earning credits and buying a new ship is part of the fun. i'm sticking with my 300i!
 

Fallen Kell

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I suspect that most people are just sticking with a 300. It appears to be a very nice ship, especially for single play. It isn't going to be the best at anything, but in a pinch, you can use it to transport some small amount of cargo, or fight off a local pirate attack, or escort a ship... It won't be the best at it, but it can still do all those different roles. As such, it isn't a bad choice if you were going to choose only one.

I'm hoping they release some more of the other ships like the retaliator or starfarer before the end of LTI...
 

Red Storm

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I wonder if we're going to be able to fly into and out of the atmosphere of planets? I'm hoping we have a mix of space stations as well as stations on planet that we can actually fly to ourselves.
 

SithSolo1

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I wonder if we're going to be able to fly into and out of the atmosphere of planets? I'm hoping we have a mix of space stations as well as stations on planet that we can actually fly to ourselves.

Not at launch. They said that the engine is capable of doing user controlled space to atmosphere to ground landings but that it will not be implemented until later on if at all. Landings will be automated with a cutscene for launch.
 

IEC

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Any reason why one should opt for a higher package than the Digital Bounty Hunter with the 300i? All these ships are just starter ships, no?
 

maevinj

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Hmm just realized I got the digital scout package and only have the aurora. I'm thinking I should plunk down the cash for one of the 300i's...
 

Fallen Kell

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Any reason why one should opt for a higher package than the Digital Bounty Hunter with the 300i? All these ships are just starter ships, no?

All the ships are not just starter ships, as they all have their own defined role(s), with probably the only exception being the Aurora at the moment, as it doesn't seem to offer anything other than being a more stripped down 300i series (where-in that might be the benefit/role of being more efficient, thus less fuel usage, but those kinds of things we do not know yet).

Try not to think of this game like Eve or X:3, but more as something like the older "IL-2 Sturmovik". Each plane had a designed role in that game, and you used the plane that you thought would best meet the mission you were trying to do. Now just substitute spaceship for plane and you have a better idea of how ships will work in this game, not like Eve or X:3 where it is many times the biggest ship that wins (well not truely Eve as big ships get killed all the time by starter ships when the big ship is caught in a failfit/afk/log-offsky, but you get the idea).

The combat is twitch/skill based, so something like a small, fast, maneuverable ship will be very effective doing hit and run tactics against larger, slower ships. So the 10 guys in the Idris corvette might get taken out by a lone pilot in a Scythe if the guys in the Idris did not bring fighters in the hanger and/or an escort as its guns may not be able to be aimed fast enough to hit a really good pilot.

The ships themselves are all kind of rock/paper/scissors in how Chris envisions them, with every tactic having an equal counter-tactic, and it is the meta-game in configuring/loading your ship and using that configuration and then choosing targets which are vulnerable against your configuration.

Now ships will all have different prices in game, but we don't really know what they will be or how easy/hard it is to make money to buy those ships yet (which without both pieces of information, you can't really judge the value of things yet, cause if the particular ship costs 1,000, but it takes you 2 months of playing to make that 1,000, that ship might be very expensive, but if the ship costs 10,000,000 and it only takes 5 minutes to make 10,000,000, that ship really isn't that expensive). We simply don't know yet. The only thing we know is that you won't start with a ship or with enough money to buy a ship. And that you will need to either join the army and fly missions for them, at the end of which they will give you some starting cash (which might or might not be enough to buy your own ship) and take out a loan which you need to pay back with interest in order to have enough to buy your own ship, or crew other people's ships (as many are multi-person ships) and get some pay for doing that.

What you are really getting right now is simply funding the game, and depending on the level of funding you contribute, you may receive the game itself and maybe some other benefits (alpha/beta access, hard copies of manuals/universe maps/a model of a ship/etc.)... Remember the things like the ships are really for the online persistent universe, but you can setup your own server with your own universe where you could give yourself whatever ship you want, add your own, etc., and have friends join you (assuming they own the game) and play there. Heck, I don't think there is anything stopping people from publishing their server on the internet as a public server, where you can give people infinite ships/money/etc. and simply have setup a massive war between one or more sides which is constantly raging...
 
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Fallen Kell

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Hmm just realized I got the digital scout package and only have the aurora. I'm thinking I should plunk down the cash for one of the 300i's...

You can simply upgrade by "melting" your current pack and using that as credit towards the pack you want.
 

SithSolo1

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Chris has stated all the current pledge ships are heavily discounted from their in-game credit equivalents. The best bang for the buck is probably the Constellation though it is still rather spendy. The limited ships, while still discounted, also have what I call the "limited tax" built in meaning that yes you are getting them at launch but you are paying a good bit more percentage wise because they are limited time items without a unit cap. Thus the ship per dollar is lower. The Vanduul Scythe and Idris-M/P are(were) probably exceptions to this as they are not only very limited time wise but also quantitatively.
 

Worthington

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I really want to add some more ships to my hangar, but none of the current ones are calling out me. Hopefully Oct 10th will bring about some cool variants or limited releases (or re-releases).
 

Red Storm

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Chris has stated all the current pledge ships are heavily discounted from their in-game credit equivalents. The best bang for the buck is probably the Constellation though it is still rather spendy. The limited ships, while still discounted, also have what I call the "limited tax" built in meaning that yes you are getting them at launch but you are paying a good bit more percentage wise because they are limited time items without a unit cap. Thus the ship per dollar is lower. The Vanduul Scythe and Idris-M/P are(were) probably exceptions to this as they are not only very limited time wise but also quantitatively.

Makes you wonder what kind of crappy starter ship a fresh newbie is going to have.
 

Fallen Kell

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Makes you wonder what kind of crappy starter ship a fresh newbie is going to have.

As I stated, none. You don't get a starter ship. You have to either join up as a member of Squadron 42 (basically play the single player campaign), which at the end you will get some money (but probably not enough to buy a ship), take out a loan (which needs to be paid back with interest), or run missions with other players as a crew member on their ship.

He hasn't stated what the loan limits will be yet, but for a new player you can probably bet it will be just enough to get one of the basic ships (probably a base model Aurora). Also ship prices fluctuate (supply/demand/number of factories producing....), so I am not sure how that will be handled by the loans.
 
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I can't imagine the game not starting a new player (that didn't pledge) off with a ship and some kind of limited time insurance the core game is space combat. Far too many easy mode folks would be pissed.
 
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SithSolo1

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The Aurora ES is the basic ship, its a step bellow the MR that pledges are getting. That said there is no guarantee that you start with a ship. Its been said that if you complete Squadron 42 you should have enough starting out to buy a basic ship in Star Citizen. There will also be NPC agencies that will loan you a ship for missions until you have enough credits to buy your own if you find your self without one. This leads me to believe that if you jump right into Star Citizen you may not start with a ship.
 

IEC

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Well I'm settled with a Digital Colonel LTI package for now, since I enjoyed dogfighting and bounty hunting in CR's previous games...
 
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