Star Citizen: Chris Robert`s new space sim (the Wing Commander guy)

[Fallen Kell]

ahahahahaa..... Was watching Anand's coverage of the AMD livestream. Chris Robert was at the event presenting and this is part of Anand's coverage during the demo:
05:33PM EDT - Cloud Imperium Games - Star Citizen, video demo now
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05:42PM EDT - Doing a demo of the Hangar Module now
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05:50PM EDT - This is definitely getting a bit long...

05:52PM EDT - AMD is trying to hurry up the demo, doesn't seem to be working

I am sorry, but it got me laughing.

 

[SithSolo1]

Yeah, I thought I was watching a Star Citizen event. Wonder when we get that hangar update with the active turrets.

 

[Revolution 11]

If Star Citizen will be using Mantle, how does that work? I thought a game engine, CryEngine 3 in this case, would have to enable some support first before the game developer does.

 

[Fallen Kell]

If Star Citizen will be using Mantle, how does that work? I thought a game engine, CryEngine 3 in this case, would have to enable some support first before the game developer does.

It probably depends on the level of license they received for the engine. They may have a license to completely modify anything in the engine, and thus can add their own support for using the API under the AMD hardware branch.

 

[IEC]

Passed 20 million in crowdfunding on the anniversary of the release of Wing Commander

 

[Whitestar127]

OP, maybe you could consider including "Star Citizen" in the thread title.

 

[Pheran]

OP, maybe you could consider including "Star Citizen" in the thread title.

Pretty sure the post is too old to change title at this point, it would require mod intervention.

 

[SpunkyJones]

Dam this thread, its got me so jacked up for this game I went ahead and got my Constellation. She sure looks pretty sitting there in the hanger!

 

[Fallen Kell]

Dam this thread, its got me so jacked up for this game I went ahead and got my Constellation. She sure looks pretty sitting there in the hanger!

Yeah, it looks good next to my model of a cutlass.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Am I missing something here or does everything in this game cost real money or is it just money for backing?

 

[bbhaag]

Right now it's just money for backing. Once the game goes live you'll be able to earn credits in game to spend on gear, upgrades, weapons etc.

 

[SithSolo1]

Multiple Package Clarification is finally Up
https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/13288-Multiple-Package-Clarification

Looks like a pretty good solution

 

[callaway86]

The ships that you get from pledging are not "real money bought" ships in the same sense as a Pay2Win game. They are thank you gifts for pledging. It may look the same, but the distinction is important. Chris Roberts has said that ships will never be bought with real money outside of pledge gifts.

 

[irishScott]

The ships that you get from pledging are not "real money bought" ships in the same sense as a Pay2Win game. They are thank you gifts for pledging. It may look the same, but the distinction is important. Chris Roberts has said that ships will never be bought with real money outside of pledge gifts.

At least not officially. Unless ship ownership is non-transferable in-game (which would be weird), I imagine many ships will be sold on ebay; assuming the game takes off.

I just hope the balance is good and that there is a substantial role/legitimate stuff to do for people with a basic ship.

 

[Arglebargle]

"It may look the same, but the distinction is important." Because it's different if you pay in advance? Looks like a Duck.....

Though really, he has a credulous money spigot as it is.

 

[callaway86]

"It may look the same, but the distinction is important." Because it's different if you pay in advance? Looks like a Duck.....

Though really, he has a credulous money spigot as it is.

Truth, I don't think they will have any issues making revenue if the game is 75% of what's been pitched.

 

[pwoz]

The way I see it is the ship is basically the ROI for the people funding the game. With a typical financing scheme he would have to pay an interest rate on the loan to the investors, or a fee to the publishers. The ship is simply a way to incentivize this method of fund raising. Instead of receiving cash if the game is successful, the gamer is receiving some game-related benefits in return for assuming risk. After all, the game is not out yet. Were there to be no incentive, he'd run out of people willing to give money on faith.

 

[imaheadcase]

My biggest worry is that all the stuff they promise with pledges will delay the game more. Money can't stop time.

 

[callaway86]

My biggest worry is that all the stuff they promise with pledges will delay the game more. Money can't stop time.

CR has covered this many times. There is no delay, because they are releasing the game in modules. Yes, the overall game will take longer, but no game launches with all "future" content and DLC.

The hangar module is already out and the core release is still 18+ months away. In that 18 months expect to see many difference modules launching and being tied together. I expect it to look like this:

hangar > dog fighting module > 1 system > system improvements > many systems > functionality > etc...

So there will always be something to play around with between now and "release".

 

[BrightCandle]

Does it not worry the backers that they have bought stuff not really knowing how all these ships and such will be balanced in the end? That is something I never understand with preorders saying you'll get a gun or an item, by and large those items end up being useless or starter items. To be paying such an additional amount of money for a ship that someone else might be able to surpass in 10 hours of gameplay could be the reality.

Because its a digital good you don't even own it, but it certainly cost you a physical amount of money. I understand the desire to fund a game you want to see, I don't see the desire to back it more for a ship which you have no idea whether it will offer any benefits at all.

 

[Jadow]

yeah I think Chris Roberts went fishing for money and caught a lot of suckers. I hope it works out great, I really do. But I'll wait till the game is out and there are reviews, message board posts about it, etc...

 

[Red Storm]

yeah I think Chris Roberts went fishing for money and caught a lot of suckers. I hope it works out great, I really do. But I'll wait till the game is out and there are reviews, message board posts about it, etc...

Thing is if everyone did that there wouldn't be a game at all. I don't think people realize why game publishing companies exist and how going without one can be a much bigger financial burden on the developer. There are enough adult gamers out there with money and developers are realizing it. I love being able to vote with my wallet and support the games I want to see get released like Star Citizen or Project Eternity. These games would never be approved by the current big publishers.

Edit: And to clarify, there's nothing wrong with not forking over money pre-release and instead waiting on reviews and whatnot. That's a perfectly understandable choice to make.

 

[vshah]

yeah I think Chris Roberts went fishing for money and caught a lot of suckers. I hope it works out great, I really do. But I'll wait till the game is out and there are reviews, message board posts about it, etc...

i think it's unfair to call us suckers. we may be, we may not be. we won't know until the game is released. progress so far is promising and communication has been excellent.

 

[QuantumPion]

I always thought Star Citizen looked way too good for a kickstarter project, with all the CGI, fake commercials, supposed in-game footage, etc. It just smelled like a huge marketing scam to me. But I finally caved and bought the $60 package because I didn't want to be left out lol.

 

[SunnyD]

Does it not worry the backers that they have bought stuff not really knowing how all these ships and such will be balanced in the end? That is something I never understand with preorders saying you'll get a gun or an item, by and large those items end up being useless or starter items. To be paying such an additional amount of money for a ship that someone else might be able to surpass in 10 hours of gameplay could be the reality.

Because its a digital good you don't even own it, but it certainly cost you a physical amount of money. I understand the desire to fund a game you want to see, I don't see the desire to back it more for a ship which you have no idea whether it will offer any benefits at all.

yeah I think Chris Roberts went fishing for money and caught a lot of suckers. I hope it works out great, I really do. But I'll wait till the game is out and there are reviews, message board posts about it, etc...

There's a reason I only bought/backed the Digital starter whatever package. Same price as an average "retail" game, so even if it ends up sucking horribadly, I'm only out as much as I would be any typical AAA retail title.

And that's also the reason that while I'm drooling all over the higher tier ships and whatnot, I'm keeping myself from dropping dollars on them. #1 - there's no need to since you're supposedly able to acquire them in-game, and #2 - because it's a privateer-like game, that'll be half the fun of actually PLAYING the game.

I have no doubts that Roberts will put out a top notch title, especially something that will grow over time.