Star Citizen: Chris Robert`s new space sim (the Wing Commander guy)

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Blue_Max

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Got the $35 AURORA ES package in my cart right now... any reason not to pull the trigger? The other package is $5 cheaper but has no beta access. Another package comes with Arena Commander for $10 more (and a lesser ship.)

...not seeing AC as an addon anywhere... [*digs a little deeper... and finds it.]

...and it's tempting to buy this... just 'cuz. https://robertsspaceindustries.com/pledge/Add-Ons/Shut-Up-And-Take-My-Money
 
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SLU Aequitas

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I absolutely respect that. And I appreciate it too (as it benefits me).

When you're flying around in your Connie on Day 1 of the PU....I will be envious (a bit) but I just hope you ignore little old me in my tiny, unimportant Aurora and move on to bigger targets.

Either that, or if the Vanduul jump my ass, I hope you fly in and help me out!

No Connie, just the Super Hornet + a 315P and a couple other things Nothing you won't have either, and it's definitely NOT worth the money I paid for it, but the concept/game the money went to was.

And I'm a nice guy, I don't pirate
 

Blue_Max

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I feel like I wasted $50. Then again, I'm now signed up for when the GOOD stuff comes along... and I'm supporting an amazing genre and great guy.

...still, I wish I'd gone the AMD video card route and put that $50 towards hardware and still got the game for free. *sigh* Crappy advice followed... live and learn.
 

rivethead

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Damn, now you got me tempted to buy one of those mustang omega packages for low $30's.

You can try out the entire Mustang line this week in Arena Commander.

I flew an Omega last night. Damn that thing is fast.....and agile. Made my Aurora feel like driving a dump truck.
 

Stringjam

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You can try out the entire Mustang line this week in Arena Commander.

I flew an Omega last night. Damn that thing is fast.....and agile. Made my Aurora feel like driving a dump truck.


I flew the Omega on the race course last night, and I would agree. Not as top-end fast as my Origin 315p, but accelerates a bit faster and has tighter handling (the 300-series tends to "drift" on turns more). I don't ever really intend to be much of a racer, but the course is a good area to determine how ships react.

I'm going to try out the Delta Mustang tonight against some Vanduul swarms to see how it compares there.
 
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catnapper

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Is an AMD R9 game promotion member not a backer? That's what I am. I own the Mustang Omega. Have raced the New Vanderval speedway, flown against the Vanduul on both dying star and broken moon (the omega is not very good for that).

But I sure don't have access to the Mustang Test Drive. I'd like to see if some other Mustang is better in the Vanduul swarm -

Any idea why I wasn't given access?
 

Bubbleawsome

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For me to get it I had to go into the menu, press "arena commander" and then choose my ship in the dropdown.
 

catnapper

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You mean the dropdown under the box where you choose between broken moon and dying star? I've done that, the only ship that appears in the dropdown is my omega.

I've also checked the "Holo-table". The only ship that appears is my omega.

I've also checked my account to see if there were ships that could be added to my hanger (right!) - there aren't.

I also contacted customer service - 4 days ago. No reply.

But I assume you are saying the mustangs should appear in the dropdown menu as described above? Good, I wasn't even sure that was the case. That's some information if CS ever gets back to me.
 

Worthington

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I could be mistaken but I don't think having the AMD racer makes you a backer. You'll have access to the game when it's released and can fly the ship you have during AC but backers are people who have donated during the funding campaign (which is still on going).
Something as simple as a ship skin would add backer status.
 

catnapper

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That's a rather fine distinction. But at least its a reason. I even asked CS if I *should* have access to this, but as mentioned there has been no reply.

But now that I think about it, some other people have complained of no access to the test drive (in the thread under the announcement) and they owned ships other than the Omega.

Well, whatever. My best time for the Vanderval speedway is 1 minute 29 seconds. Not that great I know, but I'm old.

I'll have to try it with my worn out joystick.
 

datalink7

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The cool thing about this game is that it is going to be a lot better than Elite: Dangerous.
However much the naysayers might protest, the funding and design of this game is simply too much.

It will be successful.

Now, there might some people who would like to argue otherwise. But these people can't, well...
comprehend the magnitude of the project. It's simply going to be the best space game. From the
lighting to the textures to the models to the very concept, it is the definition of a very deep,
incredibly epic game.

End of the day, I'm not really trying to say that Elite: Dangerous is a terrible game. In fact, I'm
not saying that at all. It is a fine game to hold us over. But that's also exactly what it is: a game
to hold us over.

Bad game? No. Seriously epic game like Star Citizen? Also no.

At the end of it all, I suppose I could be proven wrong. But I think I'll be vindicated.
In the event that I am wrong, I will be a very sad panda indeed At that point, I'll have
to resurrect my hopes for Freespace 3
 

Stringjam

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Is an AMD R9 game promotion member not a backer? That's what I am. I own the Mustang Omega. Have raced the New Vanderval speedway, flown against the Vanduul on both dying star and broken moon (the omega is not very good for that).

Try emptying your hangar. I pulled my 315p out of the hangar and bam, all of the Mustangs showed up.
 

Blue_Max

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I could be mistaken but I don't think having the AMD racer makes you a backer. You'll have access to the game when it's released and can fly the ship you have during AC but backers are people who have donated during the funding campaign (which is still on going).
Something as simple as a ship skin would add backer status.

The "Shut Up and Take My Money" option as well?

...I still can't get over that one... just awesome.
 

flexy

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"Epic Game"?

I wish. I really do. But I don' believe it.

SC will suffer from the same essential problem like ED.

Like ED, SC players will consist of mainly "old farts" 40+ and older, with the difference that SC players will be "old farts with big wallets" while in ED it's old farts who played the original Elite back in in 1986.

It's a target audience which doesn't exactly make an exiting world where I want to virtually hang out in and play. (The idea that this is a game where people "achieve" something with a credit card is appalling).

It is the equivalent of a car show where I go and where there are many exciting but expensive cars, a show which is filled with enthusiasts and owners who dedicated a lot of money and time on their enthusiasm for their cars. HOWEVER, it would not be a place where I would want to go to "have fun" or spend many hours of my free time on to be.

On the other hand..I might be wrong. THIS REMAINS TO BE SEEN. Maybe, just maybe SC will be a game where people are extremely dedicated to their ships, the game, the virtual world etc. and it would be fun to play this game because people are so dedicated to this game. Unless a game that is filled with immature kids, trolls etc.
 

flexy

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Can someone please tell me what I need if I want to give SC a try and what the least minimal amount of money is to get going with it.

So if someone gets access, a "hangar pass" (???) and a starter/beginner ship...what are the costs and what can you do right now in the game? I would like to give it a look.
 

Stringjam

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"Epic Game"?

I wish. I really do. But I don' believe it.

SC will suffer from the same essential problem like ED.

Like ED, SC players will consist of mainly "old farts" 40+ and older, with the difference that SC players will be "old farts with big wallets" while in ED it's old farts who played the original Elite back in in 1986.


I don't see a basis for this assumption yet. If you browse the SC forums, you'll see a very diverse group of backers thus far.

There's obviously a group that has dropped a bunch of cash to get the best "pew pew" ship they can buy, but that is just one component of the game.

According to the dev statements, there are SO MANY other ways to build a niche for yourself. You don't even need to own a ship...you can work as a crew member on a big manned vessel; you can sneak sensitive information and human cargo; work as a mercenary on FPS missions; escort cargo ships, exploration / scientific researchers, or rescue vessels with other groups as a team; you can rescue ejected pilots and explore for rare artifacts. If all you have is an Aurora, you can stick with protected trade routes and star systems until you earn enough to equip yourself to venture farther from safety.

You can choose how much risk you are willing to accept....that's part of the excitement of it all. That group of big wallet Super Hornets will likely not be able to hang around highly protected areas, and they will have a hard time tracking you down in a well-equipped, fast, low signature exploration vessel. Want to take a chance and venture into unprotected territory; get a group of dogfighters to accompany you and determine how much you are willing to pay / split the reward.

Dogfighting isn't going to be an end-all, and there will be a relevant place for every individual, despite the level of starting ship or perceived advantage.

That's why I'm excited about this game. It appears to be so much more than a dogfighting sim. And winning? Win at what? There is no end-game....just a universe, one worth actually exploring, where you aren't forced into being a combatant, and you can step out of your ship and view the world around you through the eyes of your character without being locked into a view behind the glass of a cockpit.

I see the potential, and now I'm just waiting for the execution. It's scope is massive, but so is the staff and funding. It can reach it's target, or it could fail. My guess, it most likely will not be *everything* it was promised to be on day-one release, but like Elite Dangerous, the development won't end there, and the content creation and universe will continue to expand as long as the developer is motivated to do so.

I see a lot of the same people who play ED being into SC, and vice versa. They both have something to offer.
 
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Fallen Kell

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That's a rather fine distinction. But at least its a reason. I even asked CS if I *should* have access to this, but as mentioned there has been no reply.

But now that I think about it, some other people have complained of no access to the test drive (in the thread under the announcement) and they owned ships other than the Omega.

There are a lot of people with ships who are not "backers", as they were gifted ships from other backers (original backers paid slightly less for packages/ships, and also had LTI on the ones they picked up during the first year of development, so a lot of people payed an original backer to buy the ship/package for them and then it was transferred, but the person who received it wouldn't be a backer until they personally put the money into the game from their account (not from another player's account)).

Back when this was more popular (before November 2013), there were lots of original backers who told the people receiving the ship to make sure they spent $5 to get a skin, or 5,000 UEC (name of game money), so their accounts would then be listed as a backer gaining all the bonuses of being so (such as all the pledge rewards from that point on).
 
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Stringjam

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One thing for those checking out the Mustangs....it doesn't matter which one you board in-hangar, you need to manually select the ship in the Arena Commander menu.

I was boarding the Omega, but it was giving me the Alpha. Woah....what a difference on the race track. Behind the wheel of the Omega I managed a 1:13 in the first few laps. Fun!!!

The Delta was pretty good in the Vanduul Swarm.

Overall, I think they're really fun ships, but they have a big downside of 0 freight units.
 
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