Star Fox Zero

[cmdrdredd]

I think he was being sarcastic

Maybe I missed it lol

 

[ImpulsE69]

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him (even if he was sarcastic). It all comes down to what you want to play. I'm sorry but the games that cmdrdredd is referring to I find to be trash. I have no interest in playing MP on them, and the rest I can get on PC. So yes, a Wii U is fine as a console if you own a gaming PC. Those who think you can only have one or the other are insane. People would have you believe there is some grand number of exclusives but there are not. In fact the Wii U is really the only one that does have a large number of them (and that isn't that many).

To me, Destiny is boring (and yes I've played it - it is a joke on consumers). Uncharted is good, but not worth buying a console over. No interest in Forza, etc etc. Personal preference. The Wii U may be a joke to the CoD crowd, but it still is the only console doing some things others are not. As a primary console, I can certainly see not wanting one, but if you already have a gaming PC...there's plenty of reason to choose one over a PS4/Xbox1 (moreso than a 3DS).

Sadly, I can only defend it so much, because yes, it is severely lacking, but the entire gen is so it's really just a wash (and yes, that's the PC gamer in me coming out. Everything that I can get on PC that is on Xbox1/PS4, makes way more sense to get it on PC). The console producers really need to secure more exclusivity (no PC support) if they want a hold and push their agenda, but I don't see that happening fortunately.

 

[Lil Frier]

Pokémon and Fire Emblem. That they aren't on Wii U is the biggest problem.

Well, and that they totally ruined Mario Party with this latest release, they didn't announce more Mario Kart 8 DLC (seems like Smash is getting chunks of it quickly, while Kart got a big update once), Mario Golf 9and other sports) aren't joining Tennis in a sports compilation, and the overall theme seemed to be, "buy the amiibos, they make us so much money!"

 

[Lil Frier]

Maybe I missed it lol

It was definitely sarcasm. Their comments during the demo came off as so forced, especially about how they kept going back to the dual-screen weirdness.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Yea, I dont get the whole amiibo thing, but it seems to be the new 'pokemon' - and seems to be working for them.

 

[preslove]

Except I have a PC and still don't want one. What does that say?

That you don't like 1st party nintendo games or value good local coop & multiplayer.

When my fiancee and I get home from the gym, take a shower, and plop down on the couch, we start up mario kart or 3d world.

 

[artemicion]

It was definitely sarcasm. Their comments during the demo came off as so forced, especially about how they kept going back to the dual-screen weirdness.

Destructoid had a pretty positive write up for Star Fox's use of the gamepad.

http://www.destructoid.com/star-fox...best-use-for-wii-u-s-gamepad-yet-294193.phtml

I'm cautiously optimistic. Nintendo has a good track record for creating games with polished, tight controls and compelling gameplay (Wiimote waggling Zelda games being a notable exception).

It sounds like you control the trajectory of your ship with the analog sticks and you control the aim of your lasers with the gamepad gyroscope. I could see that working fairly well even without glancing down at the gamepad.

Assuming the targeting reticle on the TV changes with your aim, you could be looking at the TV the whole time and tiling the gamepad down slightly to perform strafing runs while your ship goes straight ahead parallel to the ground (instead of having to dive down and up repeatedly in old games).

 

[cmdrdredd]

Eh, I wouldn't necessarily disagree with him (even if he was sarcastic). It all comes down to what you want to play. I'm sorry but the games that cmdrdredd is referring to I find to be trash. I have no interest in playing MP on them, and the rest I can get on PC. So yes, a Wii U is fine as a console if you own a gaming PC. Those who think you can only have one or the other are insane. People would have you believe there is some grand number of exclusives but there are not. In fact the Wii U is really the only one that does have a large number of them (and that isn't that many).

To me, Destiny is boring (and yes I've played it - it is a joke on consumers). Uncharted is good, but not worth buying a console over. No interest in Forza, etc etc. Personal preference. The Wii U may be a joke to the CoD crowd, but it still is the only console doing some things others are not. As a primary console, I can certainly see not wanting one, but if you already have a gaming PC...there's plenty of reason to choose one over a PS4/Xbox1 (moreso than a 3DS).

Sadly, I can only defend it so much, because yes, it is severely lacking, but the entire gen is so it's really just a wash (and yes, that's the PC gamer in me coming out. Everything that I can get on PC that is on Xbox1/PS4, makes way more sense to get it on PC). The console producers really need to secure more exclusivity (no PC support) if they want a hold and push their agenda, but I don't see that happening fortunately.

I understand your point believe me but there are times when I would buy a game on ps4 or xb1 over PC. I even have my PC hooked up to a tv a lot of the time. Whether it's to avoid dealing with drivers and crashes from that end or because of a larger online community or whatever. I like PC too but there's times I don't wanna have to deal with all the little stuff that comes with it. I guess it depends on the game.

The wiiu just doesn't have enough games for me and what little they do have isn't interesting or exciting enough.

 

[Lil Frier]

I agree on both those things. I have a PC, it's hooked up to the same TV and my Xbox One. I stick to Xbox One because it's where the vast majority of my peers play (partially from my influence growing up with the brand). Going to PC, making new friends, only having digital games (I'm someone who plays a game once, then rarely goes back, so I like trading them in), and dealing with needing a new graphics card and HDD (sitting on a Radeon HD 5850 and WD Black 640 GB for the past 6+ years because I don't game enough on my PC to warrant upgrades), it all ends up too much to worry about changing from.

So, I stick with my Xbox One as a primary gaming system. My PC's basically a retro machine, since my WoW friends no longer play that (leading to my departure/indifference towards it).

But I got a Wii U because it was a good deal. Well, it was MSRP, but Target had some awesome trade-in program going, and I ended up turning $150 or so in cash and GameStop credit into $400+ in Target credit, so I got the Wii U NSMBU+SLU bundle and the Mario and Luigi controllers. I never would have spent $300+ of my own cash on the thing, just not enough going for it. I'm sure this thing's life cycle will end with my continued complaints about the lack of a Fire Emblem game, among other things.

 

[cmdrdredd]

To me it's this. I bought a wiiu cause there were some games I wanted. I played them, liked them, and completed them. Then I looked at what was coming down the pipe and it felt like the console would sit forever unused now. They had the chance to impress me or entice me to stay with it and it didn't happen so I sold it to pre-order an Xbox one which I had planned not to buy. I railed hard agains the xb1 and people may remember that and also for a time I was really liking the wiiu and I was hyping it up a bit in threads here. Things shifted the other way. The stuff I hated about the xb1 got changed and I felt I would have stuff to play on it when I still didn't see anything on the wiiu. That was two years ago and I do not regret my choice.

So now it's going to take a lot to get me to buy another console.

 

[ImpulsE69]

To me it's this. I bought a wiiu cause there were some games I wanted. I played them, liked them, and completed them. Then I looked at what was coming down the pipe and it felt like the console would sit forever unused now. They had the chance to impress me or entice me to stay with it and it didn't happen so I sold it to pre-order an Xbox one which I had planned not to buy. I railed hard agains the xb1 and people may remember that and also for a time I was really liking the wiiu and I was hyping it up a bit in threads here. Things shifted the other way. The stuff I hated about the xb1 got changed and I felt I would have stuff to play on it when I still didn't see anything on the wiiu. That was two years ago and I do not regret my choice.

So now it's going to take a lot to get me to buy another console.

Can completely understand that. It's why I've held off on any of them. Heck I didn't grab a PS3 until a few years ago. There are a few games coming to PS4 that might convince me to grab one at some point, but I'm not in a hurry.

 

[Lil Frier]

To me it's this. I bought a wiiu cause there were some games I wanted. I played them, liked them, and completed them. Then I looked at what was coming down the pipe and it felt like the console would sit forever unused now. They had the chance to impress me or entice me to stay with it and it didn't happen so I sold it to pre-order an Xbox one which I had planned not to buy. I railed hard agains the xb1 and people may remember that and also for a time I was really liking the wiiu and I was hyping it up a bit in threads here. Things shifted the other way. The stuff I hated about the xb1 got changed and I felt I would have stuff to play on it when I still didn't see anything on the wiiu. That was two years ago and I do not regret my choice.

So now it's going to take a lot to get me to buy another console.

That's what I went through. I gave Tropical Freeze a try, but the lack of four-player co-op made it a loss for me (something I hate with Woolly World, but it's still getting bought). 3D World was OK, but not that exciting, and it got played once (I trade it and Donkey Kong in for basically the same price I paid to get them). I picked up and loved Mario Kart and Smash Bros. Two games can only carry a console so far, though.

Then Mario Party 10 flopped hard, and it's basically been 7 months since I found a game to get for my Wii U. Its existence as a co-op machine that stays at my sister's means the upcoming 3 games (Super Mario Maker, Yoshi's Woolly World, Mario Tennis) are probably enough to last another 6 months, but nothing awesome's on the horizon from there, especially from a co-op standpoint. I wish they had gone all-out with the sports stuff and put Mario Golf, and maybe even their baseball and soccer series, into the E3 announcement as well.

Instead, I've got a year-old Wii U that already feels like it's on life support, as it could very well be that it's dead in a year, and people might not be surprised to see that. If that IS what happens, a late-2016 NX launch (I'm guessing late-2017, but we don't really know), I might write Nintendo off for burning people so badly with this console's life cycle and software support. At the very minimum, they'd better get full emulation into the next console to keep the library strong going into that new console (which they've done well with the last two consoles).

Can completely understand that. It's why I've held off on any of them. Heck I didn't grab a PS3 until a few years ago. There are a few games coming to PS4 that might convince me to grab one at some point, but I'm not in a hurry.

Yeah, I keep wanting to get a PS3. I'm just so picky on price (because the selection of games I want to play is very small) that I probably won't find a console to pick up for a while longer. I really want to play Kingdom Hearts' two compilations, and maybe give some franchises that are slightly intriguing a try (maybe the Uncharted games, maybe the Final Fantasy X pair, maybe a few others, probably MLB 15: The Show). I just can't convince myself a console is worth $150+ to play two games, and maybe dabble in a few others.