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JEDI

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Well the last two episodes, Terra Firma parts 1 and 2, were a bust, IMO.
Reminded me of the old Star Trek days (let's do this totally out there nothing-to-do-with-the-plot-line two-parter). But maybe that's just me. All 8 epidodes before that have been great, and if you are enjoying the series thus far, you won't be disappointed.
yeah, the Mirror U. side quest was dumb.
The whole dimension hopping Empress dying subplot was wtf WHY?

there could have been so many other ways...
 

Skel

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Is season 3 of Star Trek Discovery worth watching if you don't already have a CBS All Access account? Just curious.
Depends if you've seen the first 2 seasons and enjoyed them. This season is the same only more over the top in some regards. Michael has somehow become even more uber powerful and all knowing somehow, which is both amusing and disturbing.

Eh.. they're now in the future.
But yet similar line of sight phasers and no auto targeting.

Now there's overtones of the federation turned into the Evil Empire.

Also, why haven't the federation of the future copied the spore drive?

From what I recall, the engineer that pilots the drive was a freak one off. The Federation didn't really have time to both figure out how he was connected to the spores, let alone figure out how to replicate it before they merged with the magic all knowing alien probe. Once that happened Discovery had been busy trying to keep itself out of the evil AI's hands, which also working through all of Michael's family issues.. cause for some reason no matter what, Michael's issues will always trump any logical Federation needs as highlighted a lot this season. Also, the spore drive breaks all of Star Trek, so if they had replicated it then all of the other shows suddenly wouldn't work as who'd care about a wormhole when you can just jump around everywhere.

Having said that, it makes even less sense for the future Federation not to be crawling all over that ship trying to figure out how to make it work. This could fix and rebuild the Federation, but they don't seem too concerned with it. The most they do is a token "don't get shot" warning while the ship jumps off to deal with Michael's personal issues. It rates up there with the idea of an ensign jumping all the ranks to become the first officer. No matter what I try to use to convince myself it makes sense, nothing ever works. It's a perfect example of a show inbreeding itself so far it throws out logic to give a "wouldn't it be cool if.." moment.

yeah, the Mirror U. side quest was dumb.
The whole dimension hopping Empress dying subplot was wtf WHY?

there could have been so many other ways...

They had to make sure they sent off michelle yeoh with a showcase on how awesome she is. Could have been much worse though. I was surprised that they didn't have Michael come up with some way to save her, while also convincing her to retire. I do think the showrunners over estimate how awesome the mirror universe is.
 
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Ketchup

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Having said that, it makes even less sense for the future Federation not to be crawling all over that ship trying to figure out how to make it work. This could fix and rebuild the Federation, but they don't seem too concerned with it. The most they do is a token "don't get shot" warning while the ship jumps off to deal with Michael's personal issues. It rates up there with the idea of an ensign jumping all the ranks to become the first officer. No matter what I try to use to convince myself it makes sense, nothing ever works. It's a perfect example of a show inbreeding itself so far it throws out logic to give a "wouldn't it be cool if.." moment.
If I were to bet, there are saving this for later, implying that there is too much to deal with "right now" to stop and put resources towards figuring out the spore drive. There were illusions to this when the ship first arrived at the New Federation, and when Michael arrived at the Outpost an episode or two prior (their ship was an almost-forgot story).

Unfortunately, it doesn't help the viewers when you have to stop everything that is going on for two episodes so that we can watch Yeoh go to fantacy land.
 

Captante

Lifer
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Is season 3 of Star Trek Discovery worth watching if you don't already have a CBS All Access account? Just curious.


That depends.

If you are the type to break down every detail and get frustrated because it conflicts with (fictional) "canon" or who can't resist pointing out a gap in the plot line then I wouldn't bother.

If however you are more along the lines of the "I'm thrilled to have more new Star Trek to watch even if it's not perfect" crowd and tend more to watch and enjoy then nit-pick I'd say go for it.

Fwiw I think it's really good, just a bit too touchy-feely!


EDIT: If you have Prime you can subscribe through them. Doesn't save any money off the sub fee but I find it's more convenient.
 
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ultimatebob

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Yeah, this season seems REALLY touchy-feely. I'm 4 episodes in, and it's more like a family drama than a Sci-Fi show so far.

But, it's 2020 and I really have nothing better to do during my holiday break in quarantine land.
 
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Captante

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Yeah, this season seems REALLY touchy-feely. I'm 4 episodes in, and it's more like a family drama than a Sci-Fi show so far.

But, it's 2020 and I really have nothing better to do during my holiday break in quarantine land.


Don't look now but apparently Disney is planning a "family-friendly" reboot of Firefly....

 

JEDI

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Unfortunately, it doesn't help the viewers when you have to stop everything that is going on for two episodes so that we can watch Yeoh go to fantacy land.
where the hell did that guy send her anyway?

the time where the real and mirror dimensions were aligned?!?
what time period was that?

does that mean she can make changes to the future??
 

Ketchup

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does that mean she can make changes to the future??
That is a valid point. I can see them coming back to that whenever they decide Discovery is done in the future, and we can all say, "OK, now I get it".
 

JEDI

Lifer
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2 out of 4 for me due to plot holes, inconsistencies in characterization, and awful direction.
yeah, the show is all over the place.

season 1: klingon war
season 2: mysterious red angel then unnecessarily throwing in skynet

now season 3: the future, where they still aim phasers like in the past and still no auto targeting.
or heck, how about sweeping of the energy beams like in Ghostbusters instead of firing it like a bullet

also, why is the head of starfleet dealing directly with Discovery?
you dont see the Joint Chiefs of Staff dealing directly with the Capt of a aircraft carrier on a regular basis.
they're busy with lots of other stuff.

arent there lower ranked admirals to assign the ship to?
 

amdhunter

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The whole premise of the burn happening
because of a mentally ill person having a tantrum
seems rather disappointing.

And then an
entire planet being made of dilithium is awfully convenient, don't you think?
 

Ketchup

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The whole premise of the burn happening
because of a mentally ill person having a tantrum
seems rather disappointing.

And then an
entire planet being made of dilithium is awfully convenient, don't you think?
Yeah, will be interesting to see how this plays out. Good thing their
"old" technology could find it, right? lol.
 

ultimatebob

Lifer
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The whole premise of the burn happening
because of a mentally ill person having a tantrum
seems rather disappointing.

Makes sense to me... This version of Star Trek is super Emo as is

It's also why I liked the "old" format of Star Trek better, where you could get a complete storyline in one of two episodes. If it was good, that's great, but if it was a lame premise... well, you only wasted an hour or two watching it. Instead, we get to watch an entire season devoted to one or two big ideas, and a lame ending like that that kinda ruins the finale.
 
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Ketchup

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Makes sense to me... This version of Star Trek is super Emo as is

It's also why I liked the "old" format of Star Trek better, where you could get a complete storyline in one of two episodes. If it was good, that's great, but if it was a lame premise... well, you only wasted an hour or two watching it. Instead, we get to watch an entire season devoted to one or two big ideas, and a lame ending like that that kinda ruins the finale.
Well, you could say the opposite as well. If you don't like the premise, don't watch the show, because you know the entire season is going to build on that same premise. In the old Star Trek, if you didn't like an episode, you may or may not like the next one. Since it will not be building on anything, it's anyone's guess what that next episode is going to be about.
 

JEDI

Lifer
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season 3 finale is a mess and made no sense.
plot holes galore!!!

hm.. Now Booker can activate the spore drive.
that makes Lt Cmdr Stemis expendable.

but wait.. the federation can put spore drives on other ships if they can get empaths from Booker's planet to join?

but sigh.. the expected drama between the new Capt and Stemis...
 

Exterous

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Depends if you've seen the first 2 seasons and enjoyed them. This season is the same only more over the top in some regards. Michael has somehow become even more uber powerful and all knowing somehow, which is both amusing and disturbing.



From what I recall, the engineer that pilots the drive was a freak one off. The Federation didn't really have time to both figure out how he was connected to the spores, let alone figure out how to replicate it before they merged with the magic all knowing alien probe. Once that happened Discovery had been busy trying to keep itself out of the evil AI's hands, which also working through all of Michael's family issues.. cause for some reason no matter what, Michael's issues will always trump any logical Federation needs as highlighted a lot this season. Also, the spore drive breaks all of Star Trek, so if they had replicated it then all of the other shows suddenly wouldn't work as who'd care about a wormhole when you can just jump around everywhere.

Having said that, it makes even less sense for the future Federation not to be crawling all over that ship trying to figure out how to make it work. This could fix and rebuild the Federation, but they don't seem too concerned with it. The most they do is a token "don't get shot" warning while the ship jumps off to deal with Michael's personal issues. It rates up there with the idea of an ensign jumping all the ranks to become the first officer. No matter what I try to use to convince myself it makes sense, nothing ever works. It's a perfect example of a show inbreeding itself so far it throws out logic to give a "wouldn't it be cool if.." moment.

Yeah those things made no sense. Not to mention Vulcan is apparently 20min away by warp. And the turbo lifts. And many other things. I made liberal use of the fast forward option because I was a little intrigued by the 'maybe the federation isn't as good as it used to be' hints and wanted to know what caused the burn. Too bad they discarded the first and had a stupid reason for the second.

Yeah, this season seems REALLY touchy-feely. I'm 4 episodes in, and it's more like a family drama than a Sci-Fi show so far.

But, it's 2020 and I really have nothing better to do during my holiday break in quarantine land.
I started keeping track of how much crying there was in the show. 6 of the last 7 episodes had crying with the other episode only having someone's eyes getting watery.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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It's going to fizzle pretty quick I suspect.

and who the hell wants to pay for CBS All Access?
It did not fizzle quickly and apparently a lot of people are paying for CBS All Access.


So, yeah, just cuz you dont like something doesnt mean its bad. It just means you dont like it.

Also, Discovery sucks. And America is full of dumb fucks.
 

K1052

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I started keeping track of how much crying there was in the show. 6 of the last 7 episodes had crying with the other episode only having someone's eyes getting watery.

Discovery is a mess but this in particular really started to grate on me. Why are we crying again? Crying isn't character development.
 

shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Discovery is a mess but this in particular really started to grate on me. Why are we crying again? Crying isn't character development.
They think lots of women and non-binary's watch the show and they think women and non-binary's love to see crying on TV.
 
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