Star Trek Discovery premieres tonight

[amdhunter]

this is my kind of thing


thats nowhere near correct.

Star Trek was never TOS. It wasn't even called TOS until long after The Next Generation. It's actually with Deep Space 9 that they started creating acronyms for it, so it goes DS9, TNG+TOS, VOY, ENT. STD. because STD is funny.

show was shit.

The general consensus is that it's DSC.
No Star Trek starts with ST. There is no STTOS, STVOY, STDS9...

 

[JTsyo]

Having a show be just on CBS All Access is a good way to get it cancelled. When they see how poor viewership is, they would either need to put it back on TV or can it. I find it hard to believe that they think they have enough content to get people to pay $6/month. At best I could see subscribing for a month or two and binge watching the show.

 

[tommo123]

Having a show be just on CBS All Access is a good way to get it cancelled. When they see how poor viewership is, they would either need to put it back on TV or can it. I find it hard to believe that they think they have enough content to get people to pay $6/month. At best I could see subscribing for a month or two and binge watching the show.

if there's not enough viewers then how would they move it to TV? they would have to air it from the start wouldn't they? they'd lose out on viewers who already watched it - unless all access continues with newer eps on there

 

[Ketchup]

They had a great opportunity to switch the Klingons over to English when they were speaking with Discovery (akin to how they did it in The Hunt for Red October). I do not want to be reading Klingon dialog through the entire series.

But the "sneak peak" after episode 2 makes me wonder if they are going to remedy that in some way - either less focus on the Klingons speaking amongst each other or we "learn" the language and no longer need subtitles.

 

[dud]

Enjoyed the two episodes but from an eye-candy perspective. This "reboot" does not feel like it is a pre-Kirk/Spock prequel. It does not fit into the timeline. That being said I believe the only thing standing in it's way is the sales strategy. Going through a pay service is a great way of severely limiting your market. I would not consider subscribing just to watch this.

 

[Jon-T]

So according to the producers, this is set in the Prime universe. Which right now at least, doesn't look like it's going to be easy to reconcile. They haven't made any major violations, but it also doesn't make any efforts to really fit in.

The Klingons were cloaked

In the Prime universe cloaking was introduced by the Romulans in "Balance of Terror". The Klingons later got the tech from the Romulans. In this show we have the Klingons cloaking a decade before it's introduced.

 

[DigDog]

The general consensus is that it's DSC.

i think STD more accurately represents the TV show.

 

[SKORPI0]

15 episodes for this 1st Season. I wonder if it'll have a 2nd season.

 

[dainthomas]

Enjoyed the two episodes but from an eye-candy perspective. This "reboot" does not feel like it is a pre-Kirk/Spock prequel. It does not fit into the timeline. That being said I believe the only thing standing in it's way is the sales strategy. Going through a pay service is a great way of severely limiting your market. I would not consider subscribing just to watch this.

I have a friend who's a huge Star Trek fan and subscribed just to watch it. He said it's so terrible he already canceled.

 

[Fritzo]

Having a show be just on CBS All Access is a good way to get it cancelled. When they see how poor viewership is, they would either need to put it back on TV or can it. I find it hard to believe that they think they have enough content to get people to pay $6/month. At best I could see subscribing for a month or two and binge watching the show.

It's already started: the premier was preempted by the football game, and everyone in my office missed it on their DVRs. We all installed the CBS app on our Firesticks, and saw a free trial that would automatically start charging your Amazon account after a week.

Popped over to Kodi, watched both episodes in HD win no commercials.

Fans are not going to pay for one show. Ain't gonna happen.

I have a friend who's a huge Star Trek fan and subscribed just to watch it. He said it's so terrible he already canceled.

I'm not sure what kind of standards your friend has, but the show is far from terrible. It's filmed with the look of a big-budget film, the effects are amazing, and the characters...while a bit wooden...seem to have a clear development path. I suggest you watch it yourself before giving judgement. Discovery is actually better than the last couple of Star Trek movies so far.

What I did not like: The extended Klingon conversations. 10 minutes straight of "KIN GOK UK ROK IK NUK MUK KOW!!!" started to grate on my nerves. They handled this pretty well in previous movies by starting to speak Klingon and then meshed into English. The whole mind-link thing with Sarak was a bit corny too. On the whole though, the show was very likeable right out of the gate.

 

[BoomerD]

Having a show be just on CBS All Access is a good way to get it cancelled. When they see how poor viewership is, they would either need to put it back on TV or can it. I find it hard to believe that they think they have enough content to get people to pay $6/month. At best I could see subscribing for a month or two and binge watching the show.

if there's not enough viewers then how would they move it to TV? they would have to air it from the start wouldn't they? they'd lose out on viewers who already watched it - unless all access continues with newer eps on there

Wait...are you saying this WASN'T broadcast across CBS for everyone last night?
I do not and WILL NOT subscribe to CBS's bullshit...

I watched the show last night. While it wasn't "GREAT," it was slightly better than "The Orville," and about on par for the rest of the Star Trek series after TOS. (which, being completely honest, wasn't a "great" show either...mediocre acting, bad scripts, horrible sets...but it was fun to watch when it first came out.

 

[Newbian]

I like the Captain. The XO seems a bit too young and a bit too much of a cutie to be a senior officer in what is basically a military in times of war.

The only question is how she will become captain of the ship now that she has been sent to jail and the ship is without a captain now.

 

[cbrunny]

The Klingons were cloaked

In the Prime universe cloaking was introduced by the Romulans in "Balance of Terror". The Klingons later got the tech from the Romulans. In this show we have the Klingons cloaking a decade before it's introduced.

I noticed this too. Didn't make sense to me. Maybe they'll clarify at some point.

 

[cbrunny]

I'm digging it. It's a bit dramatic for my taste, and Klingons are by a wide margin the least interesting thing that exists in Star Trek, but I think its got legs. If the paywall doesn't kill it.

 

[Newbian]

I noticed this too. Didn't make sense to me. Maybe they'll clarify at some point.

The thing is it seems only the one guy knew about this form of technology as he commented about it so it must be something new to the klingons for the most part.

 

[amdhunter]

I have a friend who's a huge Star Trek fan and subscribed just to watch it. He said it's so terrible he already canceled.

Doesn't sound like a huge Star Trek fan at all. A true fan would give it more time than a pilot episode.

 

[dainthomas]

Doesn't sound like a huge Star Trek fan at all. A true fan would give it more time than a pilot episode.

Well he mentioned nearly getting a headache from all the lens flares, I imagine that's not something that will go away.

 

[GagHalfrunt]

I forced myself to watch 15 minutes of it and can confirm that the trailer and previews that made it look monumentally stupid and childishly filmed were 100% spot-on accurate. It was awful and it looks like it's a bad parody of what J.J. Abrams would do during an acid flashback. I defy anyone to count every lens flare. Bet you can't. Bet you could sit there analyzing every single frame of the footage for years on end, get to 1.7 billion and still manage to miss one coming off a toilet seat and another from a Klingons tooth.

And WTF is up with the blue and orange? Did they get a deal on paint and dye on closeout?

 

[Ketchup]

The Klingons were cloaked

In the Prime universe cloaking was introduced by the Romulans in "Balance of Terror". The Klingons later got the tech from the Romulans. In this show we have the Klingons cloaking a decade before it's introduced.

I thought we decided that this show was after the new timeline, in which case the Prime universe that we knew is pretty much gone. So I guess they could leave it open for revelation.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

I'm really confused on the Klingon storyline here.

- In the opening scene T'Kuvma wants to light the beacon to bring the warring Klingon factions together, saying that the Federation's line of "we come in peace" is a lie. Uhhh... is there some backstory I'm missing here? In the past, did the Federation say "we come in peace" and then slaughter Klingons or something? What is the source of the Klingons' suspicion towards the Federation?

- Is the above point somehow related to the Vulcan Hello? Vulcans had been shooting at Klingons on sight, "earning [the Klingons'] respect," according to Vulcan logic. But did the Klingons actually take this action by the Vulcans as proof of the lie of "we come in peace," since Vulcans are part of the Federation? Did all those years of Vulcans doing the "Vulcan Hello" actually cause the buildup of Klingon distrust towards the Federation?

- Or is there some time warpage going on here in how they cut the episodes? Is the first scene with T'Kuvma saying "we come in peace is a lie" occurring *after* Michael Burnham had already killed that Klingon in space?

 

[Ketchup]

I agree with the point that they made the Federation a little too forgetful (stupid) in these opening episides. I personally feel like the "backstory" of their attack is imtentionally left questionable, to be revealed later. My only qualm with that is they spent all that time making us read their dialog, when I would have rather had a few extra minutes of story building on the Federation side, since all that Klingon story didn't make much of a difference to me anyway.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

What I did not like: The extended Klingon conversations. 10 minutes straight of "KIN GOK UK ROK IK NUK MUK KOW!!!" started to grate on my nerves. They handled this pretty well in previous movies by starting to speak Klingon and then meshed into English. The whole mind-link thing with Sarak was a bit corny too. On the whole though, the show was very likeable right out of the gate.

Never did understand why in every series, seemingly, only Klingon language can slip through the universal translators at will by the speaker. Really silly to have protracted conversations in Klingon in this though, if they aren't going to do it for other races as well on-screen (I haven't seen it yet).

 

[Puffnstuff]

Doesn't sound like a huge Star Trek fan at all. A true fan would give it more time than a pilot episode.

When BSG aired all it took was the pilot episode and I was hooked. Cylon model 6 was just icing on the cake.

 

[UNCjigga]

If anyone does decide to get CBS All Access and stream visa browser, do check your CPU utilization. Apparently their Showtime web app was found to be mining Monero coins while people watch Homeland.

 

[DesiPower]

I like Sonequa Martin-Green but since her character is poorly written its not gonna matter. She can only do so much with shit.

Depends on the role, she has this perpetual restlessness and sadness on her face, very dark imho, not a first officer personality. I though that the character matched her personality, a person with a rebellious mentality... she tried to take over the ship and incapacitating the captain. Perfect fit for her personality, but not a Federation first officer by any means. She dies quick, so that kinds makes it tolerable... but look at the rest of the crew casting... weak weak weak... Reviving Star Trek after 12 years, awesome graphics and special effect but very weak character/cast. Maybe people left the same way about Picard but then it grew on them, all of us... so will definitely give it time, but I expected better...