13Gigatons
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The general consensus is that it's DSC.
No Star Trek starts with ST. There is no STTOS, STVOY, STDS9...
Yeah, Burnham really screwed it for everyone. They beamed in with phasers on stun (blue color on the top of the phasers) and she set it to red before shooting T'Kuvma. I can only imagine it was because she thought that he was about to kill the captain, not knowing that the captain was already dead.What was up with the XO?
"We can't kill the unifying Klingon or he'll become a martyr and rallying point for the Klingons."
*Kills him anyway*
Their time in history probably predates the badge-as-transporter-beacon and badge-as-comms-device technology.The last thing you mentioned was a problem imo. The captain's body still had the badge in the uniform.
Please don't tell me I'm going to have to start watching this show with the same mentality I watch The Flash (and at least that show gave me a full season of wow).
What I did not like: The extended Klingon conversations. 10 minutes straight of "KIN GOK UK ROK IK NUK MUK KOW!!!" started to grate on my nerves. They handled this pretty well in previous movies by starting to speak Klingon and then meshed into English. The whole mind-link thing with Sarak was a bit corny too. On the whole though, the show was very likeable right out of the gate.
I thought we decided that this show was after the new timeline, in which case the Prime universe that we knew is pretty much gone. So I guess they could leave it open for revelation.
I'm really confused on the Klingon storyline here.
- In the opening scene T'Kuvma wants to light the beacon to bring the warring Klingon factions together, saying that the Federation's line of "we come in peace" is a lie. Uhhh... is there some backstory I'm missing here? In the past, did the Federation say "we come in peace" and then slaughter Klingons or something? What is the source of the Klingons' suspicion towards the Federation?
- Is the above point somehow related to the Vulcan Hello? Vulcans had been shooting at Klingons on sight, "earning [the Klingons'] respect," according to Vulcan logic. But did the Klingons actually take this action by the Vulcans as proof of the lie of "we come in peace," since Vulcans are part of the Federation? Did all those years of Vulcans doing the "Vulcan Hello" actually cause the buildup of Klingon distrust towards the Federation?
- Or is there some time warpage going on here in how they cut the episodes? Is the first scene with T'Kuvma saying "we come in peace is a lie" occurring *after* Michael Burnham had already killed that Klingon in space?
I'm really confused on the Klingon storyline here.
- In the opening scene T'Kuvma wants to light the beacon to bring the warring Klingon factions together, saying that the Federation's line of "we come in peace" is a lie. Uhhh... is there some backstory I'm missing here? In the past, did the Federation say "we come in peace" and then slaughter Klingons or something? What is the source of the Klingons' suspicion towards the Federation?
Thank you for bringing that up. That will surely help events of the show make more sense (but quite possibly less). Although I have no idea WHY they would do that. Are they just saying "Forget what you know about Star Trek when you watch this"?...Producers have said it is in the original timeline, but they are playing it pretty loose with trying to be loyal to the TOS look. im fine with ditching the velour and 60's concept of the future, but a little more color accents on uniforms wouldnt hurt....
That is what CBS does best, dumb it down, since they think then, "everyone can follow", it doesn't have to make sense...Please don't tell me I'm going to have to start watching this show with the same mentality I watch The Flash (and at least that show gave me a full season of wow).
What was up with the XO?
"We can't kill the unifying Klingon or he'll become a martyr and rallying point for the Klingons."
*Kills him anyway*
i read a rumor last year thatA line that bugged me:
"We haven't seen the Klingons in 100 years..."
later-
Michael: "The Klingons killed my parents"
How old is she?????
the TOS klingon-romulan alliance only happened because of an accident with the warbird prop model. somebody sat on it and crushed it right before the 2nd appearance of the romulans, so they had to use the klingon battlecruiser model because they didnt have anything else. the writers handwaved it by adding the alliance line.It would make sense if the Klingons had the cloak back then!
But they didn't. >.>
I rewatched the episodes again and I think I can confirm that the cutting was definitely not in chronological order.
The first scene with T'Kuvma telling his crew that they should light the beacon because the Federation's "we come in peace" is a lie was *after* Barnham had killed the previous torchbearer.
When BSG aired all it took was the pilot episode and I was hooked. Cylon model 6 was just icing on the cake.
The second BSG wasn't anything like the original and the Vipers had guns instead of lasers. I like FF but have never watched Dr. Who or 24 for that matter.I still haven't seen BSG, Firefly, 24, Dr Who, etc.
Where do I turn in my ATOT card and keys to the executive bathroom?
I still haven't seen BSG, Firefly, 24, Dr Who, etc.
Where do I turn in my ATOT card and keys to the executive bathroom?
Firefly is god damn wonderful shit. Since they only made one season you should probably jump on it right away. Afterwards watch the movie Serenity.
Do NOT watch Serenity first!
I still haven't seen BSG, Firefly, 24, Dr Who, etc.
Where do I turn in my ATOT card and keys to the executive bathroom?
I watched the first episode and thought it was ok. I was flipping back and forth between it and the game though. Once the game was a blow out I turned to the usual channels and watched the second episode. Both episodes were ok although I thought the Klingons speech was a little off but over all it seemed decent for a sci fi show for a new streaming service.
I'll admit I'm not as big of a Star Trek fan as some of you guys. I mean I watched the tv series and enjoyed them. I even enjoyed most of the movies even the new ones but man you guys are taking this to a new level. Talking about time lines and shit. Debating when and how the Klingons got stealth tech and how it's suppose to look old but not too old and alien alliances. There are arguments about abbreviated naming for the show and what is proper and what is not.....woah.
I'll be honest. There is only one meme that describes were this thread has gone.
Firefly is worth watching if you can. Joss Whedon had all his stuff taken off Netflix a while back, so I don't know where you can find it nowadays.
IMO, 24 is crap, Dr. Who depends on which doctor you watch...and BSG was OK for the first season, then not so much.