Star Trek Discovery premieres tonight

[Newbian]

Perhaps the warp engine signature is easy detectable but once the Klingon ships stops moving with the warp engine offline, the warp signature dissapears and it is perfectly cloaked ( presenting an EM signature comparable to background EM noise).
This series did take a bit longer to end up in a part of the universe far far away.
The typical so familiar star trek episodes will start now i guess.

They mentioned about detecting the ship around the planet with their long range sensors so you would think their short range sensors would pick it up even better.

 

[William Gaatjes]

They mentioned about detecting the ship around the planet with their long range sensors so you would think their short range sensors would pick it up even better.

That got me wondering if they can detect moving cloaked ships at close range.
That was never really clear.
But yes, the star trek jargon is not present here, so it is possible that the lines of the script the actors have to say are not written by someone who has done research into how cloaking ships and warp signatures actually works. It is all deliberately kept vague.

 

[dud]

Great and I mean great science fiction but I'll say this again ... this is NOT Star Trek. You cannot just take sci fi (as good/bad as it is) and slap a ST label on it and make it ST.

This is great Sci Fi but it lacks any semblance of the heart and soul of ST. There is no hope, no exploration ...

 

[JEDI]

how long did 133 micro jumps take?
after the Klingon ship went cloak, it didn't move?!
if they're under attack, why would they think going cloak would stop the enemy from just firing on their last known position?

who thinks the Lt purposely took the Discovery there?
when he told the capt he's willing to do a jump so soon after the 133 jumps, I knew something was up.

I think the Klingon war was just a misdirection to fool us viewers for the real over arcing plot of the Discovery.
ie: Voyageur was about the voyage
Discovery is about discovering new things that a normal starship (ie: Kirk's Enterprise) cant

 

[PeterScott]

This is great Sci Fi but it lacks any semblance of the heart and soul of ST. There is no hope, no exploration ...

Where was the hope and exploration in DS9?

This is every bit as much ST as DS9 was ST.

What you really mean is that it isn't Pollyanna TNG. If you want TNG, go rewatch TNG.

 

[dud]

Where was the hope and exploration in DS9?

This is every bit as much ST as DS9 was ST.

What you really mean is that it isn't Pollyanna TNG. If you want TNG, go rewatch TNG.

So you work for CBS? Do you work for the production company producing this show? You appear to have an obsession with this show that is disquieting. I suggest that you not be so defensive when someone posts their opinion.

I stand by my opinion ... this is great science fiction but it IS NOT Star Trek. The concept has been hijacked for profit. If Gene Roddenberry were still alive I doubt that he would have approved of it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I actually like the show, but I don't find it to be Star Trek...unless maybe you think of it is as the 'highly funded - top secret dark side to keep the surface star trek you see in other series going" much like...the real world. All smoke and mirrors...I could see that being the case, but that's not how it is being sold.

 

[PeterScott]

So you work for CBS? Do you work for the production company producing this show? You appear to have an obsession with this show that is disquieting. I suggest that you not be so defensive when someone posts their opinion.

I stand by my opinion ... this is great science fiction but it IS NOT Star Trek. The concept has been hijacked for profit. If Gene Roddenberry were still alive I doubt that he would have approved of it.

No connections. Just tired of nonsense "not ST" claims.

All the ST series have been different. People whined about TNG, DS9, Voy, Ent. This is just more of the same. Some people just aren't good at handling any change in direction.

DS9 in particular was non utopian (AKA more like real human nature), and people also complained that it was "Not ST".

https://web.archive.org/web/20071123012040/http://ifmagazine.com/feature.asp?article=2478

TAKEI: The people that really understand and love STAR TREK are no longer there. When Gene Roddenbery passed, that really was the end of STAR TREK, as we knew it. The series that came on immediately after was DEEP SPACE NINE, which was the polar opposite of Gene’s philosophy and vision of the future, so STAR TREK lost it’s way then and now the people at Paramount are all new people.

http://www.startrek.com/article/has-ds9s-perception-changed-after-19-years

Star Trek: Deep Space Nine debuted on January 3, 1993, and it immediately polarized the fan base. It was so dark and so different in every way from either the original Star Trek or Star Trek: The Next Generation that many fans tuned in or tuned out, and loved it or hated it… immediately.

A show that unfolded on a space station at the edge of a wormhole, with precious few starships, barely any beaming up and down, and next to no space battles? A main crew that didn’t get along and boldly went… nowhere, and explored… nothing? A seemingly unending, diverse gallery of recurring pot-stirring characters? Stories about politics and discord and, later, a controversial and extended war arc? An African-American commanding officer? Grungy, claustrophobic sets?

This was most definitely not your parents’ Star Trek – and that was surely the goal of the show’s creators/executive producers, Rick Berman and the late Michael Piller, as well as Ira Steven Behr (who made an indelible mark as a writer, co-executive producer and showrunner). Nineteen years later, the debates still rage on: Was DS9 different just for different’s sake? Was it the best or the worst of the Star Trek spin-off shows?

So the complaints about Discovery seem more like a Rehash of DS9 complaints. Times change, entertainment changes.

I prefer the more accurate reflection of human nature in DS9 and Discovery, than the unrealistic sanitized TNG bearing no resemblance to actual humanity.

Factually it is Star Trek. You may not like it, but that doesn't change factual reality.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Just watched the finale. Makes you wonder if this season was just a prologue. A set up for something more like Star Gate Atlantis or Universe..etc.

 

[Newbian]

It's starting back up and other then the chief of security part all I can say is

Spoiler

"Long live the empire"

 

[Puffnstuff]

Looks like they're trying to correlate themselves with the TOS cannon timeline but with a much more believable demonstration. After seeing their ships there's just no way that they can maintain the original cruiser's configuration as in its presentation of technology in displays and panels. The inside of Burnham's ship is much nicer than the original series ships so hopefully they'll break cannon with the Defiant and other more advanced vessels.

 

[JEDI]

I've been reading about the Constitution class ship USS Defiant.

So this Constitution class ship went back in time to Capt Archers time line, except in the mirror ISS universe.

So the ISS captured a ship ~100 years more advanced.
Fast forward 100 years to Discovery's timeline.
Shouldn't every Iss ship be more powerful than uss discovery since the ISS had a 100 year head start on technology?

 

[ultimatebob]

Geez, this show is still on? Dammit, I was really going to hope that CBS's "Hey, let's create a streaming service with only one good unique program, and then charge $10 a month for it!" plan would fail.

Instead, now we can expect other networks to do same thing, thanks, Star Trek fans. Bastards!

 

[Fritzo]

Geez, this show is still on? Dammit, I was really going to hope that CBS's "Hey, let's create a streaming service with only one good unique program, and then charge $10 a month for it!" plan would fail.

Instead, now we can expect other networks to do same thing, thanks, Star Trek fans. Bastards!

I saw a report that nearly 40% of viewers of the show are pirating it, if that makes you feel better

 

[William Gaatjes]

I wonder if Paul Stamets is the Terran emperor.

 

[Aharami]

ok so that wasn't too bad.

 

[JEDI]

Still waiting for them to explain why the Terrans aren't a century ahead in tech vs Lorca's Discovery.

The 22st century Terrans captured the 23rd century Constitution class ship defiant.
So in the 23rd century, the terrans should have 'Enterprise D' ships instead of same level tech as Lorca

 

[Sonikku]

I've been reading about the Constitution class ship USS Defiant.

So this Constitution class ship went back in time to Capt Archers time line, except in the mirror ISS universe.

So the ISS captured a ship ~100 years more advanced.
Fast forward 100 years to Discovery's timeline.
Shouldn't every Iss ship be more powerful than uss discovery since the ISS had a 100 year head start on technology?

I'm guessing whoever ended up with it did not want to dilute their advantage in the Terran empire by fielding the tech out to the entire fleet when the presence of a single Connie was sufficient for total supremacy in war. Either that or all the captains driven by ambition fought a civil war all trying to lay claim to the ship, getting it destroyed in the process or weakening the empire from infighting.

 

[crashtech]

Still waiting for them to explain why the Terrans aren't a century ahead in tech vs Lorca's Discovery.

The 22st century Terrans captured the 23rd century Constitution class ship defiant.
So in the 23rd century, the terrans should have 'Enterprise D' ships instead of same level tech as Lorca

Multiverse theory practically demands that the more advanced tech is in some other, similar universe.

 

[dud]

I saw a report that nearly 40% of viewers of the show are pirating it, if that makes you feel better

40% is probably 50% too low.

 

[ctbaars]

You can only buy this online right now?

 

[Fritzo]

You can only buy this online right now?

Yes...technically. It's all over Kodi however.

 

[PeterScott]

You can only buy this online right now?

Depends on your country. It's on Cable in some Countries (Canada).

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm liking the first 2 episodes back. I like the direction. I don't care about timeline continuity to be honest. Many OLD movies/shows with 'advanced tech' of the time had to drop that masquarade and update for today's 'advanced tech'. Just how it goes.

 

[cronos]

Depends on your country. It's on Cable in some Countries (Canada).

It's also on Netflix everywhere except for the US (released weekly as it airs, a-la HBO Go treating currently running series).