Star Trek: First Contact

dainthomas

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The last Nerdist podcast with Patrick Stewart had some funny stories on the making of Generations.
 

BrokenVisage

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The best of all the Star Trek movies I've seen, but I'm not a huge fan of the series either just thought it was well done and acted even with the flakey time-travel element.
 

Triumph

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The best of all the Star Trek movies I've seen, but I'm not a huge fan of the series either just thought it was well done and acted even with the flakey time-travel element.

It's not the worst, but definitely not the best. 2, 3, and 4 are all far superior. I can't stand how they completely ignore all lessons they ever learned about time travel paradoxes, and go on telling Cochran all about the future like it's OK to do that.
 

Imp

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The last Nerdist podcast with Patrick Stewart had some funny stories on the making of Generations.

I love Generations. They, apparently, shot it right after they wrapped up the final season with a relatively low budget.
 

poofyhairguy

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2 > 4 > 8 (which is First Contact)> 11 > 6 > 3 > 12 > 7 > 9 > 10 > 5 > stabbing eyes out with fork > 1
 

Jeff7

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It was basically a space zombie movie.
And I like RedLetterMedia's take on a related aspect: TV Picard and Movie Picard as being two different characters, at least in how they're written.
The movie Borg are different than they were originally presented in TNG. Voyager started that change, making the Borg more personal. They were all nice and impersonal before, just as described in-show by Q: More of just a singular massive entity. Having their centralized "leader" even bothering to converse with an individual person seemed so beneath them, like trying to have meaningful conversation with a mouse.

Movie: Yup, they're just scowling zombies that get shot or whacked with various large sticks.




I love Generations. They, apparently, shot it right after they wrapped up the final season with a relatively low budget.
They also spruced up the effects a bit.
(Though there was that cheapass use of stock footage for the exploding Bird of Prey.
...did the original Power Rangers movie even use any stock footage from the show? That's a heck of a bar to set.)

The Nexus did seem kind of wacky as a concept. A place where primates can go to live out an ideal life, but leave at any point in space and time? Ok. Sure. Why not.
Or let's just say it was made by powerful aliens and sent on its way through the Universe, kind of their alternative to a Stargate-seeder ship. So it's actually intended as a transportation system, and the whole "live your dreams" thing was just their idea of an awesome lobby. The destructive energy streamers around the outside are just to keep out the riff raff.
 
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And I like RedLetterMedia's take on a related aspect: TV Picard and Movie Picard as being two different characters, at least in how they're written.

The movie Borg are different than they were originally presented in TNG. Voyager started that change, making the Borg more personal. They were all nice and impersonal before, just as described in-show by Q: More of just a singular massive entity. Having their centralized "leader" even bothering to converse with an individual person seemed so beneath them, like trying to have meaningful conversation with a mouse.

Movie: Yup, they're just scowling zombies that get shot or whacked with various large sticks.
I have to disagree. TNG initiated the change in the Borg with Hugh; and it could be argued that it happened even before Hugh when they assimilated Picard then made him a Borg and an individual amongst the Borg as Locutus.

Oh, and First Contact is my favorite Trek movie by far.
 

Blue_Max

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Thanks for reminding me! Time to set up a fantastic movie night for the kids!
 

Insomniator

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I have to disagree. TNG initiated the change in the Borg with Hugh; and it could be argued that it happened even before Hugh when they assimilated Picard then made him a Borg and an individual amongst the Borg as Locutus.

Oh, and First Contact is my favorite Trek movie by far.

I think the Borg in TNG and First Contact were similar universes, Voyager just milked the entire idea to death trying to gain ratings.
 

Imp

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They also spruced up the effects a bit.
(Though there was that cheapass use of stock footage for the exploding Bird of Prey.
...did the original Power Rangers movie even use any stock footage from the show? That's a heck of a bar to set.)

I saw Undiscovered Country years after Generations... That was disappointing when I saw the reuse of footage. Then they did it again in Deep Space Nine.
 

TheELF

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It's not the worst, but definitely not the best. 2, 3, and 4 are all far superior. I can't stand how they completely ignore all lessons they ever learned about time travel paradoxes, and go on telling Cochran all about the future like it's OK to do that.

Yeah well after seeing all of planet earth turned into zombies, er sorry borgs,you don't care that much about lesser changes any more.
 

Sonikku

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First Contact is the best TNG film. But I think Generations had more potential if it merely had a few changes. (Kirk dying on a bridge, Galaxy class being brought down by an old bird of prey)
 

angminas

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Star Trek II is not only the best Star Trek movie, it's one of the best movies of any kind ever made. 2 >>>>> 4 > 3 > FC > 5 > Generations > 1 > 6 > a bunch of unwatchable garbage.
 

angminas

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I've said this for decades

You are a brilliant individual. Star Trek II is at least as underrated as The Dark Knight is overrated. Drama, action, life, death, humor, pathos, vengeance, classic characters, great script, ground-breaking effects, by far the best acting in the series...it's a complete movie. Few can even approach its greatness.

Picked these up at a garage sale today and immediately thought of this thread.

Got that set at a pawn shop for $6. Still feel a little guilty. When I watched Star Trek II on a big (55") screen for the first time since I saw it in the theater...well. Emotions were experienced.
 
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