Terrible movie. Continues to ruin the franchise and JJ Abrams will not rest until he runs both Star Trek and Star Wars into the ground. I will not be seeing another one of his garbage flicks.
Roddenberry is rolling in his grave.
LOL!
Only a couple Star Trek flicks before J.J. were any good.
Self delusion...it's really something.
Just curious- how big of a Star Trek fan are you?
They aren't trying to make it like the original, that has already been done. They don't want a remake so much as using the same universe but for a totally different fan base and style of writing.
This is Star Trek 5 levels here. Destroy timeline, have more plotholes in 2 hours then in an entire series run, LENSFLARE, and shake the shit outta the camera. Yeah...good movie....
That's perfectly fine if that's what they want to do. I think, though, that most people take issue with the fact that they are stealing and butchering old characters, story arcs, and scenes instead of coming up with new characters, story arcs, and scenes.
I have no problem with a new version of Star Trek...but this isn't a new version of Star Trek. It's Generic Sci-Fi Action Movie #1993945 with some people and things that are named the same as in Star Trek.
I liked the one from 2009 better, although this was good too. I was never a Trekkie growing up, but I do like sci-fi. I agree with people who say that these 2 newer ST movies are too action oriented though, the special effects and scenarios are too overblown and overshadow the story IMHO. I would like to see a more exploration oriented movie with some action instead of all action.
Well I recall watching the original series OTA every week (pizza night) and have seen every episode of every other trek show since...but I wouldn't even be able to tell you the various enterprise numbers or any other details from the show (except some of the main characters). I watch scifi to be entertained, and I can ignore quite a bit.
As somebody else put it, they could have called it "Space Idiocy" and changed the names to bob, joe, sally, and sam and it wouldn't change anything...the movie still would have sucked ass. At least I didn't pay for it.
How can anybody think it was a good movie? Total shit.
I just started writing up my review of it and decided fuck it. The movie was brain dead trash the second it started. I'm not going to waste my time, it would take hours to write out all the stupidity and how they could have made it not suck.
The reason I asked if you were a fan or not is it seems that longtime fans of the franchise hate the reboot while non-fans seem to like it more.
I've been trying to think about this. But has any ST movie ever been about exploring? There was Stop Voyager 1, Stop Khan, Rescue Spock, Save Earth, Find God, Save the Klignons, Stop Soran, Stop the Borg, Stop Dougherty, Stop Shinzon, Stop Nero,.Stop Khan
Was there every any "exploring" done in any of the movies. Weren't all of the movies basically goal oriented in existing ST lore, with the possible exception of Star Trek V, and we all saw how that turned out. Don't we generally leave the exploring to the TV series, with the movies focusing on a smaller arc using well established motives and themes?
Maybe the problem is that we don't have a TV show to go along with the movies. They could certainly do one without it being the Enterprise and then tie the TV series and movies together every couple of years. Then you'd at least have something of a foundation for when the new ST cast isn't interested or affordable to do a Enterprise movie anymore.
This is Star Trek 5 levels here. Destroy timeline, have more plotholes in 2 hours then in an entire series run, LENSFLARE, and shake the shit outta the camera. Yeah...good movie....
Yeah, the TV show set up the movies, and a lot of them built off of previous episodes. The original movies were a continuing storyline, which is why II, III, and IV were all well received. V was universally panned because it was just plain poorly put together (mostly due to a writers strike, budget cuts, and no decent SFX company was available---the movie should have been put on hold instead of being forced out). VI continued where V SHOULD have picked up, and was well received as well.
The reason the TNG movies never really gelled is Paramount changed gears and was all for making Star Trek a "shoot-em-up", because battle episodes got huge ratings on the TV series. They tried to make big action blockbusters out of the franchise, but the cast wasn't really "that type of cast". While First Contact was probably the best TNG movie, if you look at 60 year old Picard running around the ship in a sleeveless shirt thinking he's Bruce Willis, it is kind of ridiculous.
After the TNG episodes were ran into the ground, Paramount came to the conclusion that Star Trek was too inaccessible to the average movie-goer, hence we have this redone, less cerebral, more action oriented and therefore more accessible movie.
It's Homogenized Trek for consumption by the masses. Enjoy.
My favorite idiocy was:
Resurrecting a 300 year-old man to design weapons and ships and then the lame reason behind having him do it. I'm sorry, but that was preposterous and extremely lazy writing.
I took from the movie that Khan was helping design and build weapons because he thinks like a brutal savage, something Starfleet couldn't do. Admiral Marcus felt someone with that level of brutality was needed to prepare them for war with the Klingons, not that Khan was a brilliant technologist that could build weapons and ships 300 years ahead of his time.
Trying to avoid anything made by Mr JewJew Abrams
Yes, that was the reason given, and it was extremely lame and lazy writing IMO. If they wanted to give a somewhat legitimate reason that would've sounded more plausible, they could've said:
Admiral Marcus discovered Khan, woke him up, and was studying him in an attempt to genetically engineer super soldiers to use against the Klingons.
Was that really necessary dude?
The reason I asked if you were a fan or not is it seems that longtime fans of the franchise hate the reboot while non-fans seem to like it more.
wow.
Texas, too.
Really makes it difficult to find relevance for that state when so many Texans make an open mockery of themselves.
Oh, Star Trek...yeah, I might go see it....