Star Trek < or > than Star Wars

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cbrunny

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One does not exclude the other. The thing Star Wars generally lacks is "science," but he kept that term in both.
Care to give an example of a non-fiction fantasy?

Just for the record, what he said is correct and is extremely well established in literature.
 

Ichinisan

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Care to give an example of a non-fiction fantasy?
Um...that's my point. He said "Star Trek is science-fiction" and "Star Wars is science-fantasy."

Just for the record, what he said is correct and is extremely well established in literature.
No. What he tried to say is well-established:

Star Trek is science-fiction.
Star Wars is fantasy-fiction.
 
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cbrunny

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Um...that's my point. He said "Star Trek is science-fiction" and "Star Wars is science-fantasy."


No. What he tried to say is well-established:

Star Trek is science-fiction.
Star Wars is fantasy-fiction.
What he said was right. You are confusing.
 

Mike64

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Star Trek is science-fiction.
Star Wars is fantasy-fiction.
Indeed. Except when it literally can't be avoided altogether, basically no one ever talks about "science" anywhere at all in the Star Wars franchise (in the sense of explaining how any of their nifty doodads, the Force, or anything else, actually "works".) And on the few occasions when they do it at all, it's only in a very vague way that merely alludes to general concepts "everyone in that Universe" is expected to understand as basic background knowledge...

In "science fiction", on the other hand, while the "science" is usually all but totally made-up out of thin air (and in lesser examples of the genre, often nonsensical), the general idea is to explain everything in at least "sciencey" terms and not, for example, mystical ones (which by definition can't be grasped by rational thought processes at all)...

We must be getting better.
We're mellowing in our old age
Or maybe just getting slower on the feet..../
 
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zinfamous

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Yes. Because there are absolutely no hotties in anything related to Star Trek.

Here's where I would agree and point out T-Pol, but then get assaulted by a wave of nerds screaming bloody murder for mentioning "that horrible franchise thing that was not Star Trek!" D:

See, this is why Star Wars wins.
 

zinfamous

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I actually enjoyed her character and was really annoyed with how they over sexualized her in the first season. "OMFG are we in the decon chamber with T'Pol AGAIN???"

lol, so true.

but damn, TPal is fine
 

leper84

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Tpal is fine but Hoshi is the sleeper of the series.

Star Trek for series
Star Wars for movies
 

Ruptga

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Any of the women of Farscape beat all of those, and they did it without pandering in decontamination chambers.
 
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