Star Trek spoof The Orville (by Seth MacFarlane)

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ultimatebob

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That plot twist at the end should leave you thinking, though... how is the timeline going to change because of that? Will the Orville even have the same captain now?

Oh... Yaphit's dance moves were my favorite
 
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ultimatebob

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Or maybe Kelly will be the captain now?

That's what I'm thinking. Going back to episode 1, it was basically Kelly who got Captain Mercer that job because she felt guilty about Ed's post divorce depression.

In a world where those two were never an item, that wouldn't have happened. Who knows what that change of captain might have changed... they still might be at war with the Krill or getting decimated by Moclans for all we know.
 

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That's what I'm thinking. Going back to episode 1, it was basically Kelly who got Captain Mercer that job because she felt guilty about Ed's post divorce depression.
But then again that was the Kelly that went out with Ed and went from party animal to taking her live seriously.
If she keeps partying she probably won't make captain and Ed might make captain on his own because he isn't depressed about the divorce.
Now they are free to make them a couple again though.
 

ctbaars

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Good point TheELF. Ed was married to his work, sort of speak. Kelly was a playa. That said though. The new young Kelly can see what she can accomplish.
Alternatively, I think it's also possible that the show can make a very controversial social commentary here. That marriage can be good, even a bad/failed one.
 

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Any guesses about tonights show?

Who will be the Captain?
Are the Moclans still allies?
Are the Krill?
Isaac still on board?
Who is "dating" who?

How many cameos?

I hate time travel episodes.
Ill bet Kelly goes back again and sets everything right but how will she know to?
They never said this was a 2 parter, did they?

Is this the end of the series? Did they get renewed? Waiting for some deep thinking from the writers here.
 

ctbaars

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Season finale.
Original time line only. Everyone dies in a fireball.
Parallel time line takes over next season from the very beginning! And Kelly will be on to Isaac. Remember, she read private logs which can be both person and professional.
 

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Season finale.
Original time line only. Everyone dies in a fireball.
Parallel time line takes over next season from the very beginning! And Kelly will be on to Isaac. Remember, she read private logs which can be both person and professional.
It's supposed to be the same time line, that's the whole reason they wiped her brain,so she doesn't change anything in the present.
 

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It's supposed to be the same time line, that's the whole reason they wiped her brain,so she doesn't change anything in the present.
I thought at the end of the last show, it was very likely that the wipe did not actually happen. And even if the wipe did take effect, the new Kelly took a different path than the old Kelly. There are two time lines.
 

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I thought at the end of the last show, it was very likely that the wipe did not actually happen. And even if the wipe did take effect, the new Kelly took a different path than the old Kelly. There are two time lines.

I imagine they are cliffhangering it in a way that it is a single timeline ---> to the older ones. Thus history changes for them(not that they would realize it).
 

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I thought at the end of the last show, it was very likely that the wipe did not actually happen. And even if the wipe did take effect, the new Kelly took a different path than the old Kelly. There are two time lines.
They wiped her brain so that she doesn't have any memories so that she won't affect the present by changing the past with her knowledge,the mind wipe didn't take (or maybe it did but anyway) which means that she has now changed the timeline by not going out with Ed.
Today's episode is The Road Not Taken so probably we are going to see what happens in the past.
 

JEDIYoda

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Talk about holes in a plot......this is 100 times worse than Discovery.....c`mon lets get real.....
 

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They wiped her brain so that she doesn't have any memories so that she won't affect the present by changing the past with her knowledge,the mind wipe didn't take (or maybe it did but anyway) which means that she has now changed the timeline by not going out with Ed.
Today's episode is The Road Not Taken so probably we are going to see what happens in the past.

Oh so that wasn't the end of the season?
 

ultimatebob

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Talk about holes in a plot......this is 100 times worse than Discovery.....c`mon lets get real.....

Heh... OK. That said, the Orville has two advantages here:

1) It's a "Sci-Fi Dramedy" that isn't trying to take itself too seriously. I mean, come on... the male lead is famous for making an adult cartoon that's mostly based on fart jokes

2) Since it's a new show, it doesn't have 50 years of "rules" to follow like Star Trek does. So, they can make shit up on the fly and mostly get away with it.

Sure, that might not be "fair", but then this show is probably never going to get the ratings that a Star Trek show would because it doesn't have the built in fan base.
 

ctbaars

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Talk about holes in a plot......this is 100 times worse than Discovery.....c`mon lets get real.....
Some people will never be satisfied!! For entertainment value Discovery is over the top!!
In every series ever made there will be people who expect it to be logical and all and follow peoper science and what not!!
Get over it!! It is a series made on TV and it is done well! So quit crying and enjoy Discovery for what it is -- A very well done program!!
It gets old hearing grown up whine and complain about little shit -
The phaser bean is narrow and not wide.....
The phaser beam is gold color and not blue....
Spock never had a beard.....
Spock didn`t have a sister...….
What no food replicators.....and so on…….
OMG just roll with the flow...
Life is to short to to actually care about little crap....

The #1 complaint that I find so funny -- The plaot holes are bugging me...hahahahahaaaa get over it!!
Take your own advice
 
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ultimatebob

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Heh... is anyone getting a Star Wars Empire Strikes Back vibe from this episode?

Maybe some riffs from Travelers and Seaquest as well. Watching this show is like watching the Simpsons at times... it leaves you thinking "Where did they get that idea from? Oh!"
 
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Does anyone else think that for an advanced, computer based species the Kaylons are pretty poor pilots and even worse shots?

Nice to see Alara again but was she even awake to do her part? Issac can show more emotion.

The shuttle hit the water going how fast? Didnt even affect the crew inside.

I know, I know, just a TV show.
 

ultimatebob

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Yeah, I had no idea that Union ships could also be used as submarines until now.

Somehow the Orville survived being under miles of water for months even though it had battle damage... that's a tough ship!
 
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Yeah, I had no idea that Union ships could also be used as submarines until now.

Somehow the Orville survived being under miles of water for years even though it had battle damage... that's a tough ship!
Not really much different than the Star Trek Movie "Into Darkness" where the USS Enterprise was underwater like a submarine.

Then think about some of the WWII aircraft carriers they are now finding at the bottom of some of the deepest parts of the Pacific Ocean. Other than a couple of holes from torpedo hits, they look pretty much the way they did before they sunk. I can't find one of the videos I saw where it showed an International Harvester tow tractor still on the hanger deck. It looked untouched and you could still read the International Harvester logo that was painted on it from the factory.



Actually, I think a submarine would probably make a good space ship. It can carry huge amounts of water in the ballast tanks and pretty much air tight. Too bad it would take an enormous amount of energy to get one in orbit. I guess you could send it up in sections, but look how many launches it took to put the ISS together. So at this time it isn't even feasible.
 
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ctbaars

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It probably came out of the same shipyard as the Enterpri ... Oh wait, wrong show.
Edit: Cepak beat me to the post.
Edit 2: Subs are engineered for inward pressure. ISS for outward pressure too. But with the massive amount of acceleration a "starship" likely experiences, sub is the toughness required.
 
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