Star Trek spoof The Orville (by Seth MacFarlane)

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JEDI

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Kind of funny it started as a spoof and now has just replaced Star Trek for me.
Yeah, it turned all serious with genecide and war in season 2.

I am looking for a replacement for star trek discovery...
(haven't seen Picard season 2 or st:new worlds yet)
 

JEDI

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I would have done the same with season two, if I knew this was coming.
Interesting theory that they knew It would be their last 1/2 way through the season, thus the more serious genocide arc.

If so, I would have thought Seth would go even more wacky comical since this was supposed to be a Star trek spoof
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Interesting theory that they knew It would be their last 1/2 way through the season, thus the more serious genocide arc.

If so, I would have thought Seth would go even more wacky comical since this was supposed to be a Star trek spoof
I never really saw it as a spoof, just a modern sci fi/comedy with strong homage to star trek. Kinda like lower decks if it wasn't actually star trek related. No reason there can't be serious episodes too. Hell the whole Moklin baby thing from S1 was pretty serious.
Why do people watch so much TeeVee?



Turn it off.


Turn it ALL off.
Cuz there's great stories out there if you know where to find them?
 

Shmee

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So the Orville is coming back? Cool, but is it only on Hulu? If so, why not other places?
 

Muadib

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Who else saw the first new show on Hulu?!? I just did, but am I the only one?
 

TheELF

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Was it as horrible for you as it was for me?
Why did it turn into a high school drama?
Could you imagine anybody in the federation acting like that?
Do you guys remember hugh or seven of nine? The borg where destroying federation ships left and right but starfleet would still treat them with respect.
Do you remember how Q lost his powers and start trek was the only one that would protect him from every other race that was out for revenge?

Holy illogicality batman, live fire training right next to inside the space shipyard like what the what, all the time the only thing I could think of was the court martial for the next few decades.
Also aerodynamic space racing combat ships...aerodynamic in spaaaaace. (aero=air, plenty of that going on in space)

And OK it's good that they are tackling a serious issue like suicide, since any sci-fi fan watching this show for too long will be in danger, but it was completely laughable how much emotion the human parties where emoting while for the bot it was just the most logical thing to do. So many emotional shots of iZac with so much swollen music and all the time my brain was going ..but, but, he doesn't care...he/it isn't even made to look human and he doesn't even want to become human.

Also mercer seems like he finished the Zapp Brannigan academy, yeah sure, dump all your offensive torpedoes into a shuttle and blow all of it up, it's not like you are always in enemy territory, since the bad guys can show up anywhere at any time, you will be fiiiiiine, don't worry, leave your ship defensless.
In trek they would spill some explosive material and blow that up with phasers, same effect and you keep all your defensive capabilities.https://futurama.fandom.com/wiki/Zapp_Brannigan

Another thing was the editing that was seriously off at some points, responses to lines where like a second too late some times with an awkward pause in between conversations.

Schmalzy soap-opera with forced conflict.
 

dainthomas

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Was it as horrible for you as it was for me?
Why did it turn into a high school drama?
Could you imagine anybody in the federation acting like that?
Do you guys remember hugh or seven of nine? The borg where destroying federation ships left and right but starfleet would still treat them with respect.
Do you remember how Q lost his powers and start trek was the only one that would protect him from every other race that was out for revenge?

I think the issue was they saw him as a crewmate and he just betrayed them. I think there would have been a similar reaction in Next Generation if a fight broke out with the Klingons and Worf turned on the Federation and killed a bunch of them. Would the crew welcome him back? There's a difference between an enemy and a traitor.
 

TheELF

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I think the issue was they saw him as a crewmate and he just betrayed them. I think there would have been a similar reaction in Next Generation if a fight broke out with the Klingons and Worf turned on the Federation and killed a bunch of them. Would the crew welcome him back? There's a difference between an enemy and a traitor.
That's the thing, star trek wouldn't do that because it was a science fiction show and not a drama.
Also everybody in ST was educated enough to realize if somebody was programmed/brainwashed and wasn't blaming them for being a victim.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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That's the thing, star trek wouldn't do that because it was a science fiction show and not a drama.
Also everybody in ST was educated enough to realize if somebody was programmed/brainwashed and wasn't blaming them for being a victim.
Also ST Federation was an idealization of liberality, basically a fantasy of perfect beings. It was pointed out every so often by people outside the Federation, sometimes subtlety, sometimes not. Gets a little play in Lower Decks too, though that show in general is a bit more on-the-nose with its information delivery.
 

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Yeah I wasn't a fan of the latest episode even though I like the show. Firstly it was too long. Apparently Hulu is doing one hour shows....too long imo. The pacing was off and you could tell he was using filler. Second the entire suicide thing was done much better in that Worf TNG episode. Lastly it makes zero sense that Isaac would be allowed to continue to serve - come on, he is a legit traitor and murderer. His later actions somehow don't excuse his prior crimes. I mean if I murder a thousand people and then run into an burning orphanage to rescue a 100 kids does that make my murders not liable anymore? The crew has every right to be hostile towards him and refuse to assist him. The Captain is being an asshole. Sloppy.

Also the actor that plays Lamaar can't act for shit. Even after two seasons he's stilted.
 

TheELF

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So right after the episode where ensign resting-bitch-face made such a drama out of iZac killing crew members the whole crew gets murderized by the main core crew....

Also the episode was written by someone who had a friend years ago that had seen one horror movie once years ago and told him about some scenes that where in it.
Nothing makes any sense, this is a typical sit-com halloween episode but it's summer now.
 

Muadib

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To those without Hulu, perhaps you have Disney+ ? ? All three seasons will be on Disney+ starting August 10th.
 

shortylickens

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So right after the episode where ensign resting-bitch-face made such a drama out of iZac killing crew members the whole crew gets murderized by the main core crew....

Also the episode was written by someone who had a friend years ago that had seen one horror movie once years ago and told him about some scenes that where in it.
Nothing makes any sense, this is a typical sit-com halloween episode but it's summer now.

Yes I agree with some people here. This season has taken a sharp downturn in writing quality and I dont know why. Maybe they got a bunch of new writers. Maybe the showrunner changed his philosophy. But its different, and not in a good way.
 

thebestMAX

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Yes I agree with some people here. This season has taken a sharp downturn in writing quality and I dont know why. Maybe they got a bunch of new writers. Maybe the showrunner changed his philosophy. But its different, and not in a good way.

Looks like the whole budget is spent on overly long battle scenes and special efffects. Not much left over for writers. Ill still take it over Discovery.

Alos, I find the sheer number of ships on both sides distracting and implausible. Guess doing away with money in the future (as Picard said) works pretty well for them.
 

TheELF

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Looks like the whole budget is spent on overly long battle scenes and special efffects. Not much left over for writers. Ill still take it over Discovery.

Alos, I find the sheer number of ships on both sides distracting and implausible. Guess doing away with money in the future (as Picard said) works pretty well for them.
Yeah that is bad but the fact that distance doesn't mean anything in this world is even worse, like they have a conflict on an alien world and the next moment they are back on Earth with no sense of any time having passed.
Also everybody suddenly is on vacation...
They send for help and the whole fleet is there all at once like instantly...
Discovery started this crap but here it's even worse.
 

Muadib

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Yeah that is bad but the fact that distance doesn't mean anything in this world is even worse, like they have a conflict on an alien world and the next moment they are back on Earth with no sense of any time having passed.
Also everybody suddenly is on vacation...
They send for help and the whole fleet is there all at once like instantly...
Discovery started this crap but here it's even worse.
I was watching this episode, and my wife came in. She watched a few minutes, and then freaked out over this. She left the room mad, because I wanted to finish watching the episode. Damn you sci fi writers!!
 
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