Star Trek spoof The Orville (by Seth MacFarlane)

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Mayne

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I want to watch this show but I only have so much cringe in me...I think i used it up with the Office...tell me i should watch this?
 

DesiPower

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Again, I'm going to point to ST:TNG

Their first and second season had stuff like this:

...and this...

...and things like "Data getting drunk from a virus", racists characters, terrible effects, and I could go on and on and on and on.

I remember when everyone said Gotham wouldn't last one season. Or Supergirl. Or Agents of Shield. The Orville is going to last more than one season.

I want it to last, I like the show overall, but I want them to improve their story telling. The part where they got past that super civilization defenses using cloak and landed on that planet and went all the way to the zoo, MASSIVE plot holes, I can cut them some slack but not that much, they need to improve.

Another reason they need to improve is because they are not bringing anything original to the table, they based it ENTIRELY on the Star trek, its as if in the Star trek universe, instead of the flagship vessel and the best captain, its a story a much smaller insignificant vessel with firefly type crew. When you share so much plot similarity, then you better live up to the same story telling standards.
 
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shortylickens

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The fact it has a fan-base and is getting good ratings means it's providing something a lot of people want to see. You don't appear to be in that group, so luckily you're not forced to watch it. It'll do fine without you.

DONALD TRUMP HAS A BIGGER FAN BASE THAN SUPERGIRL!!!!
 

DesiPower

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Early numbers are in: The Orville pulled a 2.6, which was behind football (as you'd expect), but surprisingly enough, ahead of the Emmy's (and by half a point!)

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/tv-ratings-sunday-sept-17-2017/

The early numbers will see larger swings once they get adjusted to better account for the football overruns. Still, The Orville's early numbers last week were 2.3, so the second episode may have done better than the first once all is said and done (and tabulated).

We will see when happens this week once its moves to its intended Thursday slot and overlaps (the only) football game
 

ViRGE

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Don't you dare start talking some trash about the Skant.
Can we please not talk about the Skant (or Angel One) again, like ever?

We will see when happens this week once its moves to its intended Thursday slot and overlaps (the only) football game
Oh it'll lose a whole point, maybe more. As long as you aren't getting preempted, the post-football slot is the cushiest slot on Fox's schedule. But The Orville is doing well enough that were it to take a sizable hit, it would still have good ratings for a Thursday. So far it's not showing any signs that it's at risk of being on the bubble, which for a sci-fi program (and one on Fox no less) is a gorram miracle.
 
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Charmonium

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I want to watch this show but I only have so much cringe in me...I think i used it up with the Office...tell me i should watch this?
You should watch it - assuming that the second episode is characteristic of future episodes. I'll admit that the story telling is a little slap-dash but personally I don't have a problem with that as long as the story moves along and they have somewhat plausible explanations for how things happen. A show like this isn't a drama so I don't expect perfection. I expect some tongue-in-cheek humor with lots of genre references so the story almost becomes an after thought. It's still important and can make or break the show but it's not as high up on the priority list as it would be for straight scifi.

As far as the cringe factor goes, I didn't find it cringeworthy at all and I'm pretty sensitive to that sort of thing. I suppose there were probably moments where you could have felt that way so maybe I'm just inured to that sort of thing at this point although I don't really believe that. I think you'll be ok. Check it out. The worst that happens is you don't like it.
 

OutHouse

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Again, I'm going to point to ST:TNG

Their first and second season had stuff like this:

...and this...



.


god that was bad. yea i agree the first few seasons of STNG were rough then they hit their stride and was and still is awesome.
 

OutHouse

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just watched e2 and the replicator spitting out a cannabis edible was awesome. lol could you imagine Piccard going up and instead of getting a "Tea, Earl Gray Hot" he orders up a "Funky Neubian brownie, warm" and you know the Ferengi were hard core drug dealers.
 

dud

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I have to admit that I mildly enjoyed the second episode. To do so I had to look past the fact that the show has very little original content. I found myself accurately predicting exactly what was going to happen 10-20 minutes into the show. McFarland (or whoever is writing the scripts) is simply recycling themes and ideas from past series and jumbling them together into a contemporary format using modern themes.

I will continue to watch but if the show continues to lack much originality ... not for very long. There is no joy in knowing how the story is going to go ... before the first commercial.
 
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Exterous

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I have to admit that I mildly enjoyed the second episode. To do so I had to look past the fact that the show has very little original content. I found myself accurately predicting exactly what was going to happen 10-20 minutes into the show. McFarland (or whoever is writing the scripts) is simply recycling themes and ideas from past series and jumbling them together into a contemporary format using modern themes.

I will continue to watch but if the show continues to lack much originality ... not for very long. There is no joy in knowing how the story is going to go ... before the first commercial.

Yeah the whole 'inexperienced officer gets command, makes poor decisions which turns many remaining characters against them but learns from it and becomes loved by those same remaining characters as they save the original command characters' is terribly worn.
 

Pulsar

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I admit I snickered about the whole "did the egg come out of his butt" thing.... because I was thinking the same thing.
 
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bbhaag

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Just got done watching the first episode and thought it was ok. Overall I liked it. It had some funny moments then some drama some action and then a little character development. It kept my attention so I went ahead and dl'ed the second episode so we'll see how it goes.
I honestly think some of you guys are being a little to critical of a Seth Macfarlane show though. I'm not sure what some of your guys's expectations are but they seem a little high. I suggest you start aiming a little lower. Mainly because it's a Seth Macfarlane show.....some of you need to realize that and then reign in those expectations.
 

dud

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Yeah the whole 'inexperienced officer gets command, makes poor decisions which turns many remaining characters against them but learns from it and becomes loved by those same remaining characters as they save the original command characters' is terribly worn.


Sarcasm noted.



I honestly think some of you guys are being a little to critical of a Seth Macfarlane show though. I'm not sure what some of your guys's expectations are but they seem a little high. I suggest you start aiming a little lower. Mainly because it's a Seth Macfarlane show.....some of you need to realize that and then reign in those expectations.


Agreed and makes sense. I'd never heard of Macfarlane until reading this thread and watching his show so I had no frame of reference. Will try to keep an open mind ...
 

Jon-T

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I thought it was okay. Strange how the Krill are such bad shots though. They took what... 200 shots at the Orville landing party and only managed to graze the Captain in the shoulder?

Could that have a joke?

Be interesting to see if at some point they introduce a new red uniform guy only to have him get killed within 30 seconds of landing on an alien planet.
 

ctbaars

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Could that have a joke?

Be interesting to see if at some point they introduce a new red uniform guy only to have him get killed within 30 seconds of landing on an alien planet.
Yes, with a serious story line around it.
 

DesiPower

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Just got done watching the first episode and thought it was ok. Overall I liked it. It had some funny moments then some drama some action and then a little character development. It kept my attention so I went ahead and dl'ed the second episode so we'll see how it goes.
I honestly think some of you guys are being a little to critical of a Seth Macfarlane show though. I'm not sure what some of your guys's expectations are but they seem a little high. I suggest you start aiming a little lower. Mainly because it's a Seth Macfarlane show.....some of you need to realize that and then reign in those expectations.

Sorry, but who the frell is Seth Macfarlane and why do I care? You made a spoof of a classic, put it on prime time, better do it justice.
 
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Charmonium

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what is everyones problem with seth anyway? i don't get it.
I think a lot of people feel Seth is tapped out. What between Family Guy, American Dad, The Cleveland Show and god knows what else, he has a specific style of humor that has probably been overexposed at this point.

Granted, The Orville isn't really in the same vein as those other shows, at least as far as I can tell so far, but I think there's a certain weariness associated with him and his humor. If you like him, that's great. But if you don't, it's kind of like Michael Bay and the Transformers franchise - you just want something fresh and new.
 
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