Those who saw this in 3D... How was the 3D? Was the effect consistent throughout the movie? Was it "good" 3D?
Those who saw this in 3D... How was the 3D? Was the effect consistent throughout the movie? Was it "good" 3D?
Those who saw this in 3D... How was the 3D? Was the effect consistent throughout the movie? Was it "good" 3D?
I thought it was hardly noticeable. There was one cool scene where a star destroyer looked like it was sticking out into the audience, which was pretty cool, but the rest of the movie the 3d was forgettable.
This was realD 3d, I'm not sure if the imax 3d looked any better.
Have to go with this..... they get a bad-ass new shuttle craft but are still using non-shielded Tie Fighters? I did notice the tie fighter had 2 person seating with a 'gunner'. I'm not versed enough to know if there was an older model that had that.
And..... all a tie-fighter has to do is take out 2 turbo lasers and suddenly they are away from a star destroyer?
There were way too many plot devices like that in this movie. Rey's Instant-Power, Finn's ability to fight with a lighter saber (lore says that the light saber field itself generates huge amounts of torsion so that only people skilled in the force can use it safely), etc.
Rebel Alliance won, but still exists? And only has 12 fighters to their name? Let's mount a save the universe attack with 12 fighters and led by a garbage man? Let's not ask HOW he's going to get the shields down?
Even as a long-time Star Wars fan they really screwed the pooch on not explaining some of this stuff when it needed an explanation. I had far to many "wait, WTF?" moments in this movie that I didn't need to have.
Even a simple "most of our fleet were circling around the planets that got blown up and no one else is close enough so we have to go with what we've got" would have put that to bed.
My kids didn't even care for the movie - 10, 12, 14 and they all said it was boring and 'just like the other one.'
Those who saw this in 3D... How was the 3D? Was the effect consistent throughout the movie? Was it "good" 3D?
Finn said he was raised to kill, but then he tells Han that he worked in sanitation? I did like his solution to use the force and then Han saying it doesn't work that way...lmao
I saw it in 3D not irritating like most 3D movies but the effect added little to the movie. I'd say see which ever version you are comfortable with.
Have to go with this..... they get a bad-ass new shuttle craft but are still using non-shielded Tie Fighters? I did notice the tie fighter had 2 person seating with a 'gunner'. I'm not versed enough to know if there was an older model that had that.
And..... all a tie-fighter has to do is take out 2 turbo lasers and suddenly they are away from a star destroyer?
There were way too many plot devices like that in this movie. Rey's Instant-Power, Finn's ability to fight with a lighter saber (lore says that the light saber field itself generates huge amounts of torsion so that only people skilled in the force can use it safely), etc.
Rebel Alliance won, but still exists? And only has 12 fighters to their name? Let's mount a save the universe attack with 12 fighters and led by a garbage man? Let's not ask HOW he's going to get the shields down?
Even as a long-time Star Wars fan they really screwed the pooch on not explaining some of this stuff when it needed an explanation. I had far to many "wait, WTF?" moments in this movie that I didn't need to have.
Even a simple "most of our fleet were circling around the planets that got blown up and no one else is close enough so we have to go with what we've got" would have put that to bed.
My kids didn't even care for the movie - 10, 12, 14 and they all said it was boring and 'just like the other one.'
The Empire believes in simple numbers. TIE Fighters have no shields and no hyperdrive (although them talking about escaping the system in the TIE leads me to believe that they may have hyperdives now I kept waiting for Poe to say no hyperdrive cannot escape). They are cheap and disposable. Even after losing their Empire they seem to keep using their old methods instead of adapting. I would have expected them to be using the TIE Advanced or something similar as the standard fighter by now.
The single TIE taking out the turbos was ridiculous. If a single TIE can do that then what is the point of capitol ships at all?
Rebel Alliance won and became the Republic controlling some unknown portion of the galaxy. I'm guessing the Republic and the remnants of the Empire are in a cold war at the beginning of the film with the Republic sponsoring the Resistance in Imperial space. That explains the small number of old fighters being available to the resistance as giving them a whole fleet would be too blatant. The US didn't give the Afgans the 1st Armored Division to fight the Soviets just a few advisers and some Stingers. Everyone knew we were involved but one would lead to global war whereas the other had some deniability to it.
But after having several planets exploded I'm guessing the Republic/Imperial war gets underway again in the next movie. It is a convenient way to get everything back to ANH level with a small resistance base against a huge weapon. They referred to the Republic Fleet several times in the movie so I'm guessing it is pretty bad ass as I really want to see another Endor level space battle.
Yes I know it is the First Order now but they will always be Imperials to me.
The Rebel Alliance won and became the Republic. The Resistance is another group that operates within areas that is controlled by the First Order.
It's best not to think too much about the Starkiller, just accept it. The whole physics behind it wouldn't work, if you took the mass of a star and compressed it into a planet, you would collapse the planet.
I don't disagree with anything you said - but the fact is that if casual moviegoers are left asking questions about the continuity / scenes in the movie because they don't make sense, then the director has failed.
Take the Matrix movie. There was never a point where you stop the movie and say "well hold on... why the fuck didn't they do this". Yet there are numerous points in this movie where you're left thinking that what just happened doesn't make any sense at all.
Did I miss the explanation of that in the rolling credits at the start? Because it sure seems like that simple point would have answered a lot of questions.
The single TIE taking out the turbos was ridiculous. If a single TIE can do that then what is the point of capitol ships at all?
Did I miss the explanation of that in the rolling credits at the start? Because it sure seems like that simple point would have answered a lot of questions.
Well I suppose it is possible that they were inside the shields or they didn't have shields up because "LOL one TIE". But either way the laser cannons on a TIE should take a while to melt through the armor.One must wonder though if perhaps the shields effectively "ignore" a TIE fighter. Yeah, sure, as soon as it was stolen they could have changed the configuration, but they also appear to have blown up the control deck in the hangar.
Yes, I'm making excuses...
I think you are overestimating the average moviegoer. Most people will not notice the issue. Some people who know enough lore will say WTF and others will pick up on the details and fill in the gaps. I do not remember having a WTF moment in relation to the actions of the people in the movie. I'm guessing that if they managed to destroy the resistance then the entire Republic fleet would descend upon the Starkiller with furious vengeance in a few days.
I thought there were less general WTF moments in this than there were in JJ's version of Star Trek. My biggest one personally is he broke the speed of light. In JJ's world light travels instantly over multiple light years so that people on one planet can see planets in another system destroyed in real time using visible light. By an explosion so large it would encompass several star systems. The Starkiller was stupid.
I think we will find out that Rey was training at Luke's Jedi temple when Ben Solo (AKA Kylo Ren) went full retard and copied Anakin and snuffed a bunch of kids. She survived but had her mind wiped to protect her and was dropped off on Jakku.
Captain Phasma was a huge let down. She'd better have a badass role in the next few movies because that was completely bullshit what they did with that character.
I'd like to see Chewie rip the arms off that Ben Solo asshole.
That is all.
Well I suppose it is possible that they were inside the shields or they didn't have shields up because "LOL one TIE". But either way the laser cannons on a TIE should take a while to melt through the armor.
Why worry about them at all? They are not designed to track and hit fighters in the first place. It's like using a battleship gun to fire at a jet ski. Also for some reason ventral "cannons" fire missiles.Why worry about the turbo lasers at all? Instead of flying in the same plane as the SD, why not just go "down" from it?