Star Wars: The Force Awakens reviews *SPOILERS*

[Subyman]

Here it is....
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-questions/

Okay. Something to think about is that if you have major questions from the movies and are motivated enough to search them out on the web for the answers, then it is a good movie A lot of those questions seem to be good ones to answer in the later movies or for the fans that really want to dig into more lore.

 

[MonKENy]

That scene actually bugged me a bit on the second watching. The whole area seemed to be this sort of semi-lawless, finders-keepers sort of land, and what claim did Rey have to make that guy let BB-8 go? It just seemed really weird.

I was saying that the first time through. How did she know the droid didn't belong to the guy?

They also never explained why BB8 was following her around when she told him to leave and he had another mission. He just... was.

I've only seen it once, and that really bothered me from the moment she started walking over to the guy.

She can understand what BB-8 says. She could tell he was being kidnapped.

 

[Bitek]

SO im guessing the Republic is significantly weakened now that they just lost 5 planets including their main seat? On a side note, I would have loved to see Jar Jar on that main planet look into the sky right before i blew up.

ANd whats left of the First Order? Im guessing they lost almost all they had on that Ice planet.

This is the best criticism of ep7 I've seen on the internet.

Congratulations on your victory.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I avoided this thread like the plague up until now when I've finally seen the flick, so here it goes.

First and foremost, this film is 100% transitioned not towards a good continuing story, but rather being PC. I noticed it right off the bat.

First you have a token black guy. Randomly, after 6 episodes, you MAGICALLY not only put in a black guy, but make him the main male character of the story for most of the flick. Bravo. you have done what every other stereotypical movie can do. Douchebag move, as always. Stick with the story line would be safe, but instead you venture out into stupidity.

Second, you have the PC genre of trying to get rid of the "Damsel in Distress". Except Leia was never really a Damsel in Distress. She had tons of use. But they were clearly seeking to eliminate that altogether by making an ultra buff woman that can magically be more physical than male counterparts. Boy oh boy what a surprise.

Third, you have the eye-rolling overall genre of "Smart woman, stupid male" role. The token black guy showed from the very beginning he was not only stupid, but a complete pussy. All the while, the woman was smart as a whip, knew how to magically fly vehicles she has never stepped in, and could beat the shit out of huge ass monsters at any point.

Fourth, the anti-hero was something out of todays emo kids. I expected him to threaten to slit his wrists half-way through the movie. Holy shit could you pick a worse actor than the Anakin one? Yes. Yes you can!


That's all I have for now. I'm going to drown myself in drinks from how shitty that movie was tonight.

 

[MonKENy]

I avoided this thread like the plague up until now when I've finally seen the flick, so here it goes.

First and foremost, this film is 100% transitioned not towards a good continuing story, but rather being PC. I noticed it right off the bat.

First you have a token black guy. Randomly, after 6 episodes, you MAGICALLY not only put in a black guy, but make him the main male character of the story for most of the flick. Bravo. you have done what every other stereotypical movie can do. Douchebag move, as always. Stick with the story line would be safe, but instead you venture out into stupidity.

Second, you have the PC genre of trying to get rid of the "Damsel in Distress". Except Leia was never really a Damsel in Distress. She had tons of use. But they were clearly seeking to eliminate that altogether by making an ultra buff woman that can magically be more physical than male counterparts. Boy oh boy what a surprise.

Third, you have the eye-rolling overall genre of "Smart woman, stupid male" role. The token black guy showed from the very beginning he was not only stupid, but a complete pussy. All the while, the woman was smart as a whip, knew how to magically fly vehicles she has never stepped in, and could beat the shit out of huge ass monsters at any point.

Fourth, the anti-hero was something out of todays emo kids. I expected him to threaten to slit his wrists half-way through the movie. Holy shit could you pick a worse actor than the Anakin one? Yes. Yes you can!


That's all I have for now. I'm going to drown myself in drinks from how shitty that movie was tonight.

Want to know how I can tell youre a blast at parties...

Dude KILLED his role, I think it was an awesome fit. I dont think it felt forced or pushed or that it was trying to be "PC". You say stereotypical...however if it was stereotypical than the opposite would be true as that would mean ALL the movies have black leads to be PC. So yeah.....

How is putting a strong female lead automatically creating a genre of "getting rid of" So thats what every female lead is ever? So Ridley was just a genre, Audrey Hepburn, Jody Foster, Sandra Bullock?

So when its stupid woman smart male its ok?

Anti-Hero? WTF are you blabbering about now? Who exactly is the anto hero? You mean the Straight evil I murdered my father to push myself over to the dark side Kylo Ren?

Not to mention that many of the shit youre pissing on about was similar to the original trilogy.

Now Im going to be stereotypical in my assumption that you are 1. Old 2. Racist 3. Sexist and 4. Vote Trump

I dont know why of all the things Ive read your posts pisses me off so much. Maybe its the just the ignorance that oozes off of it. In any case Im done with my rant.

 

[BudAshes]

I avoided this thread like the plague up until now when I've finally seen the flick, so here it goes.

First and foremost, this film is 100% transitioned not towards a good continuing story, but rather being PC. I noticed it right off the bat.

First you have a token black guy. Randomly, after 6 episodes, you MAGICALLY not only put in a black guy, but make him the main male character of the story for most of the flick. Bravo. you have done what every other stereotypical movie can do. Douchebag move, as always. Stick with the story line would be safe, but instead you venture out into stupidity.

Second, you have the PC genre of trying to get rid of the "Damsel in Distress". Except Leia was never really a Damsel in Distress. She had tons of use. But they were clearly seeking to eliminate that altogether by making an ultra buff woman that can magically be more physical than male counterparts. Boy oh boy what a surprise.

Third, you have the eye-rolling overall genre of "Smart woman, stupid male" role. The token black guy showed from the very beginning he was not only stupid, but a complete pussy. All the while, the woman was smart as a whip, knew how to magically fly vehicles she has never stepped in, and could beat the shit out of huge ass monsters at any point.

Fourth, the anti-hero was something out of todays emo kids. I expected him to threaten to slit his wrists half-way through the movie. Holy shit could you pick a worse actor than the Anakin one? Yes. Yes you can!


That's all I have for now. I'm going to drown myself in drinks from how shitty that movie was tonight.

Are you joking or was that serious critic? If serious let me tell you why you're an idiot so I can get my internet forum superiority buzz on.

1) Lando Calrizian.
2) Chick is Luke's daughter and happens to have some force powers. The guy she fights is Leia's son and Leia seems to have little to no force powers along with Han so it would make sense that their son isn't particularly strong in comparison. Meanwhile Han is still a badass and there is the great commentary on the old school man having the emo son and he just doesn't understand where he went wrong.
3)Luke was able to magically fly anything in the first movie despite seeming to only be able to fly a speeder before he leaves tatooine.

There are plenty of things to critic in the movie yet you managed to pick out 3 things that were just carry-overs from the original movie while you despair about this new movie being not as good. Time to take a look at yourself and see if maybe your political views have calcified your critical thinking skills.

 

[CZroe]

And it would have been fun if they had a stormtrooper trip or bump his head. Fanservice dammit.

JJ already referenced that.

BTW, if the original movies are canon, then that head-bump means that they had already ditched clones by that point.

 

[MonKENy]

Are you joking or was that serious critic? If serious let me tell you why you're an idiot so I can get my internet forum superiority buzz on.

1) Lando Calrizian.
2) Chick is Luke's daughter and happens to have some force powers. The guy she fights is Leia's son and Leia seems to have little to no force powers along with Han so it would make sense that their son isn't particularly strong in comparison. Meanwhile Han is still a badass and there is the great commentary on the old school man having the emo son and he just doesn't understand where he went wrong.
3)Luke was able to magically fly anything in the first movie despite seeming to only be able to fly a speeder before he leaves tatooine.

There are plenty of things to critic in the movie yet you managed to pick out 3 things that were just carry-overs from the original movie while you despair about this new movie being not as good. Time to take a look at yourself and see if maybe your political views have calcified your critical thinking skills.

I think Kylo and Rey are twins. But otherwise yeah exactly.

 

[Subyman]

I think Kylo and Rey are twins. But otherwise yeah exactly.

Eh, Han and Leia would know her then. Luke's daughter!

 

[MonKENy]

I dont think Lukes daughter, He cant take a wife or have kids if he truly followed the ways of the Jedi. But yeah even if separated at a very young age they would have to know. Although Han did jump at the chance to partner with her and Leia did hug her before Chewie, the falcon was on her planet, and they Han did get wind of it real fast.

Im still leaning towards twins.

 

[Childs]

I dont think Lukes daughter, He cant take a wife or have kids if he truly followed the ways of the Jedi. But yeah even if separated at a very young age they would have to know. Although Han did jump at the chance to partner with her and Leia did hug her before Chewie, the falcon was on her planet, and they Han did get wind of it real fast.

Im still leaning towards twins.

Ren is like 10 years older than she is.

 

[Newbian]

I dont think Lukes daughter, He cant take a wife or have kids if he truly followed the ways of the Jedi. But yeah even if separated at a very young age they would have to know. Although Han did jump at the chance to partner with her and Leia did hug her before Chewie, the falcon was on her planet, and they Han did get wind of it real fast.

Im still leaning towards twins.

The problem is was luke even taught that as it's something that came up in the prequels so it doesn't count as those now longer mean anything.

 

[Aikouka]

Okay. Something to think about is that if you have major questions from the movies and are motivated enough to search them out on the web for the answers, then it is a good movie

I don't think that's necessarily true. If what you seek are answers to minor questions, then that's fine. For example, if you wanted to know the name of that town that Rey is at on Jakku. However, if you want to know how in the world Rey is able to get into the Millenium Falcon and get a hang for it after about 30 seconds, you need to go look that up, and I don't think that's just some small, worthless thing. That's background information on our main character that has been left out of the movie for whatever reason, and I think that's a bit more important to include to make the character not seem like a Mary Sue.

Does not having this information kill the movie? Nah. Does it hurt it? I think it hurts the storytelling. To a degree, I think we also expect a bit more out of a movie like Star Wars, and with the talent behind this movie, I don't think that's unfounded. To be clear, I still don't think this is a bad movie, and nothing that I saw here will stop me from seeing Episode VIII. Although, the next film is actually Rogue One in 2016, and then Episode VIII in 2018. The rumored Han Solo prequel movie will most likely come between Episode VIII and Episode IX. When I looked up Rogue One, I was a bit surprised to see that Poe Dameron won't be in the movie at all. They kind of hyped him up so much during this movie that I expected that stuff to be the springboard for people to go see Rogue One. I think people might end up disappointed if there aren't any other fun characters. (Look at how super serious that poster looks!)

 

[ElFenix]

Although, the next film is actually Rogue One in 2016, and then Episode VIII in 2018.

VIII is may 2017

 

[Majes]

So I'm still stuck on the "find the map" plot device...
I understand that it was a map of Jedi Temples and the path that Luke took.
I don't care about R2 waking up. He does whatever the heck he wants in each and every film.
What I don't understand is that when they find the map they can't find a match for it. This just isn't possible with the sizes they presented. There would have been parallels in the star clusters even if some planets had been erased to hide information. If they did any comparison of the maps they would have found the locations.

Also, I need to hear a solid explanation for why R2 had a different map than the resistance. It makes zero sense that he would gain information while on the Death Star and not share it when debriefed.

The other thing that cries out for an explanation is Starkiller base. How did the remnants of the Empire build such a thing. Where did the resources and money come from? Why did they build another resource intensive super weapon when it was historically obvious that it was a poor investment?

 

[Homerboy]

A lot of you need to let go of your questions and "issues" with the movie.There a easily just as many plot issues and holes in the OT yet those have not been put to the scrutiny that this one movie has. In fact we seem to laugh at the ridiculousness of the issues in the OT, but for some reason, with this new movie we get angry/frustrated.

Just ENJOY THE GOD DAMN THING for what it is.

Star Wars was NEVER a literary master piece -- nor is it ever going to be.
Just be ecstatic it is light years (parsecs?) better than the prequels and their story lines.

 

[Majes]

A lot of you need to let go of your questions and "issues" with the movie.There a easily just as many plot issues and holes in the OT yet those have not been put to the scrutiny that this one movie has. In fact we seem to laugh at the ridiculousness of the issues in the OT, but for some reason, with this new movie we get angry/frustrated.

Just ENJOY THE GOD DAMN THING for what it is.

Star Wars was NEVER a literary master piece -- nor is it ever going to be.
Just be ecstatic it is light years (parsecs?) better than the prequels and their story lines.

Sorry man... For me it's tough because they removed the entire EU that they used to explain the events in the originals... Now I'm just kind of floating here, and I really expected a better plot than what we got...

 

[foghorn67]

VIII is may 2017

And we are back to a May release. Thank goodness.

 

[SP33Demon]

I dont think Lukes daughter, He cant take a wife or have kids if he truly followed the ways of the Jedi. But yeah even if separated at a very young age they would have to know. Although Han did jump at the chance to partner with her and Leia did hug her before Chewie, the falcon was on her planet, and they Han did get wind of it real fast.

Im still leaning towards twins.

They're not twins, and the Jedi Order was destroyed before Luke, lol.

Rey exhibited a natural ability to pilot something she'd never flown before, who does this sound like? Who were insanely great pilots from Star Wars? Only Anakin and Luke, not Solo/Leia. Rey and Kylo are cousins, which also explains why the light saber went to Rey (and called out to her earlier) - it belonged to her father and his father. She is the direct lineage. Disney also made it clear that Star Wars is a story about the Skywalker Jedi family, not the Solo's. Try not to think too hard about this, JJ made this movie for the average layman and his kids to understand, not PhD doctoral students.

EDIT: I will say, however, that the story would be much more compelling if Kylo/Rey were brother/sister. However, you would have to explain why Solo didn't recognize her, nor Leia to a lesser extent (Leia faking it to protect her daughter? ehhhh, lame). Maybe Leia was pregnant and then Han left before he knew she was? This would also be lame as opposed to a story where Luke banged another Jedi chick which is why she is so much more powerful than Kylo - she would have the DNA of 2 Jedi's vs only one like Luke/Anakin/Leia.

 

[tmc]

saw it last night. too much similarity with episode 4.
it should be "a new hope - digitally remastered with new faces".

 

[Udgnim]

The other thing that cries out for an explanation is Starkiller base. How did the remnants of the Empire build such a thing. Where did the resources and money come from? Why did they build another resource intensive super weapon when it was historically obvious that it was a poor investment?

it destroyed the Republic capital & fleet, so that investment paid off even though it was only used once

 

[Sonikku]

And we are back to a May release. Thank goodness.

Surprising that the next movie is only a year and a half away. (with Rogue One set to touch down way before that) With all the other movies we were looking at twice the wait time.

 

[BlitzPuppet]

Star Wars was NEVER a literary master piece -- nor is it ever going to be.
Just be ecstatic it is light years (parsecs?) better than the prequels and their story lines.

I enjoyed the prequels for what they were, they also had the benefit of everyone knowing what the end result was.

VII on the other hand is starting on a completely new story arc, something that hasn't been attempted since IV. This very much gives people a reason to bitch/critique it and not take it for "what it is".

Saw it last night...and I'm disappointed. Huge plot holes/story gaps because I can only assume this is a cash cow and will be milked by prequels and sequels.

I grew up on the movies (hell, I watched star wars and ferris beuheler every day when I was 2-3+) and played all the games and loved (and remember) the stories in them, so I'm conflicted and confused when watching the movie as to what is canon and what is not.

Long story short I was disappointed but it did feel like Star Wars. Since I'm too young to have seen the originals in theater I will say that this one definitely did not beat Episode III in my book.

Also a question:

When Han was killed did he help his son by turning the lightsaber onto himself, or was the kid just being a dick by saying "thank you"?

 

[Sonikku]

He was being tugged by the Light and saw killing his own father as a way of ensuring he would not falter in the eyes of his master, Snoke. He was basically trying to end the indecisiveness and inner turmoil by committing to the dark side.

 

[Majes]

it destroyed the Republic capital & fleet, so that investment paid off even though it was only used once

What makes you think it destroyed their fleet?