Star Wars: The Force Awakens reviews *SPOILERS*

[Pantoot]

Haha.

At first I thought. oh, a female-Vader. That's cool too and different. The voice and acting were very effeminate.

Funny, I thought the same thing.

 

[Sonikku]

Wish I enjoyed it more. Got kinda bored in the middle. In hindsight it probably wasn't worth salivating for over a year.

 

[Kaido]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACuzzd_BZzk :biggrin: (video with music)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5B3ui7Cs4s

TR-8R..

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/tr8-t0r-the-stormtrooper-tray-tor

http://imgur.com/gallery/ZzpkVjk

http://i.imgur.com/OJhKesv.gif

http://imgur.com/gallery/GqgraNX

http://www.teepublic.com/show/384837-traitor

 

[cbrunny]

Apparently people think that Leia got old and fat and are raging on the internet. I thought she looked great. I hate the internet.

 

[cbrunny]

So in the original trilogy there's dead jedi that talk to the live jedi. Do we know if the Sith can do the same thing? With Darth Emo having so many daddy/grand-daddy issues, do you think he was able to talk to Vader in the same way that Luke talked to Obi-Wan in RotJ?

 

[Eug]

I wonder how much agreements with the former stars of Star Wars had to do with the story line; what they were willing to do, and for how much money? E.g., perhaps Harrison Ford would only agree to do one more episode and wanted his character killed off so the fans weren't left hanging? Perhaps Mark Hamil was a douchebag about the whole thing, hence only a 30 second scene with no dialogue at the end?

There are more movies coming. It's clear that Luke will be very important in those.

BTW, the way the movie was originally designed, Rey was going to go on a quest for something, meeting Luke somewhere in the middle and then moving on from there. But they couldn't make the writing work. They said it seemed all pointless to them to have Rey - and the audience - meet Luke, and then spend much of the rest of the movie ignoring Luke.

So then they changed it so that meeting Luke was the actual quest.

Anyways, after watching the movie a second time, Kylo Ren and Captain Phasma still piss me off. It's like we don't have a real badass villain yet. Kylo Ren is an irritating emo teenager, and Captain Phasma is a wimp. And the giant dude is just a hologram. Hopefully these characters will be fleshed out in Episode VIII.

BTW, so far I also have little interest in Poe Dameron. He seems superfluous. I like Cameron Poe much better:

I guess my problem is I had high expectations, but the movie IMO is merely good, and didn't meet those expectations. But at least it's a huge improvement over all 3 prequels. Rey really carried the picture. Excellent casting for Rey. Finn was not bad too.

 

[dat722]

I'm going to watch it again this week! After watching ANH after TFA, SW4 tech is outdated, yet it was ahead of its time. Props to George Lucas.

 

[Balt]

Finally saw it. IMO, it's pretty bad. Not prequel-level bad, but pretty bad.

I cannot imagine what they were thinking with Kylo Ren's character. They took all the stuff that people hated about Anakin Skywalker in the prequels (eg, that he was just a whiny little brat) and duplicated it with Kylo Ren. Just another completely hollow and uninteresting villain, which seems to be a pattern in JJ Abrams movies.

Also apparently the force is now just a light switch you can turn on. You don't need any training to control it, just 'feel it' and BAM you're a jedi.

 

[Eug]

I'm going to watch it again this week! After watching ANH after TFA, SW4 tech is outdated, yet it was ahead of its time. Props to George Lucas.

Of course SW4 tech is outdated, but my main complaint with it watching it decades later was the more stilted acting that was common of that era - 1970s.

However, the plot was much more cohesive. The story was simple, but they executed that beautifully.

Same goes for SW5, although the acting (and direction) seemed better.

They kind of lost their way for SW6 though IMO.

So, out of all the movies, here is my ranking:

1) SW4
2) SW5
3) SW7
4) SW6

Let's forget about the prequels.

 

[drebo]

Well, if you're not into Star Wars thats understandable. Probably not into Star Trek either, although there was only one great Star Trek movie before the reboot.

And zero great ones since.

 

[jpiniero]

Has an shot at being #1 (unadjusted) domestically by the end of the weekend. Geez. I enjoyed watching it, but it's not that good of a movie to go see multiple times.

I am trying to decide who is going to be frozen in carbonite in Episode 8 - Finn or Poe. And Rey and Luke will have to save him.

 

[Homerboy]

Has an shot at being #1 (unadjusted) domestically by the end of the weekend. Geez. I enjoyed watching it, but it's not that good of a movie to go see multiple times.

I am trying to decide who is going to be frozen in carbonite in Episode 8 - Finn or Poe. And Rey and Luke will have to save him.

Interestingly enough, everyone I know that has seen it multiple times (including myself) say it's actually much more enjoyable the 2nd time because you're not trying to connect dots and "think" your way through it. You just sit back and enjoy the Star Wars of it all.

 

[dainthomas]

So in the original trilogy there's dead jedi that talk to the live jedi. Do we know if the Sith can do the same thing? With Darth Emo having so many daddy/grand-daddy issues, do you think he was able to talk to Vader in the same way that Luke talked to Obi-Wan in RotJ?

In the novelization of ROTS, Yoda discovered how to do that and then taught it to Obi Wan before they split up. It may have been alluded to in the movie also. It's also mentioned that it fades over time.

 

[quikah]

Also apparently the force is now just a light switch you can turn on. You don't need any training to control it, just 'feel it' and BAM you're a jedi.

She is able to access the skills of people through the objects they used through the force (pilot skills from the rebel helmet she wears in the beginning and light saber skills from touching Luke's saber). I made this up, but it is a nice explanation.



This is pretty funny.


http://youtu.be/FuL4fKoQ0UE

 

[Kaido]

So in the original trilogy there's dead jedi that talk to the live jedi. Do we know if the Sith can do the same thing? With Darth Emo having so many daddy/grand-daddy issues, do you think he was able to talk to Vader in the same way that Luke talked to Obi-Wan in RotJ?

Maybe, but it wouldn't be Vader...Anakin shows up as a ghost jedi at the end of RotJ along with Yoda & Obi-Wan. In fact, this was one of the changes they made in the remastered version...the original ending had old-Vader, at the time of his death, and the remastered version has young Hayden: (if the video doesn't auto-jump, start at 3:19)

https://youtu.be/XkDO2UxX4Lo?t=199

Which separately is also odd because they didn't stick young Obi in there :hmm:

So if Kylo summoned gramps, he would probably tell him to quit being a whiny emo evil jedi and to grow up

 

[A Casual Fitz]

In the novelization of ROTS, Yoda discovered how to do that and then taught it to Obi Wan before they split up. It may have been alluded to in the movie also. It's also mentioned that it fades over time.

In the movie Yoda tells Obi-Wan that he will show him how to contact Qui-Gon. /shrug

 

[james1701]

If JJ really wanted to turn people on their head, this is how the rest should play out.

Luke and Rey work to save Kylo. It turns out that Leia is really the new emperor, and flips Rey to the dark side. Kylo gets the knights of Ren back together to hunt down Leia, and he must rescue Rey and turn her back to good. Meantime Lando hears about Han's death and returns to take ownership of the Falcon since it was his originally. He will fly the lead ship and destroy what ever device that means destruction for everyone in the end.

 

[Kaido]

Lucas on TFW:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIrQUXm_hY

Full interview:

http://www.charlierose.com/watch/60665244

 

[Balt]

She is able to access the skills of people through the objects they used through the force (pilot skills from the rebel helmet she wears in the beginning and light saber skills from touching Luke's saber). I made this up, but it is a nice explanation.

This is a clever explanation (more clever than I can give them credit for at the moment). I hope you're right.

 

[drquest]

If JJ really wanted to turn people on their head, this is how the rest should play out.

Luke and Rey work to save Kylo. It turns out that Leia is really the new emperor, and flips Rey to the dark side. Kylo gets the knights of Ren back together to hunt down Leia, and he must rescue Rey and turn her back to good. Meantime Lando hears about Han's death and returns to take ownership of the Falcon since it was his originally. He will fly the lead ship and destroy what ever device that means destruction for everyone in the end.

This might still be possible....

Leia did guilt Han into bring their son back, and directly caused his death. She could be pulling Ben's(Kylo Ren) strings.... Han did leave her for some unknown amount of time.

It would be amazing if she's actually the one behind Snoke.

 

[james1701]

Yes it would. Of all the theories on the net, I have never seen this suggested before. Also, the way she aged, would fit perfectly with using the dark side. That would be a totally epic story.

 

[drquest]

Yes it would. Of all the theories on the net, I have never seen this suggested before. Also, the way she aged, would fit perfectly with using the dark side. That would be a totally epic story.

Yup.... I agree and her dad was king Darkside himself, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch for her to make the move.

Remember how the Emperor didn't show any Force powers or interest in it before he came to power.... She could have helped by pushing Ben(Kylo) to destroy Luke's Jedi training center.

 

[james1701]

Also, look at the interest in Rey and just bypassing Chewy after Hans death.

 

[pete6032]

She is able to access the skills of people through the objects they used through the force (pilot skills from the rebel helmet she wears in the beginning and light saber skills from touching Luke's saber). I made this up, but it is a nice explanation.

That's an interesting idea.

 

[pete6032]

Luke must be pretty jaded about the force at this point considering how much damage it has done to everyone. Why does the Jedi training lead some padawans to go ape shit and want to kill everyone?