Disney said only movies+clone wars are canon. That's it. Disney didn't want to sift through all the EU stuff, but that didn't mean they would exclude it from films. That's why some of the books may seem relevant.
So I've read 10 of 30 pages of this thread, after finally seeing the movie two days ago. As a long time Star Wars fan, it is simple. Every time I saw things that I didn't like, or things that didn't make sense, or were rehashed, I thought back to Episodes 1-3. And I felt better. George Lucas had his chance to continue on with the saga, and he failed. Miserably. In every way imaginable. There was nothing good about Episodes 1-3. Nothing. So having him involved in this in any way would not have been good.
There's plenty to criticize about Episodes 4-6, but we still love them. Episode 7 is about on par.
Hes sour for the fact that TFA did so well with fans and so well-received by critics. Had Disney bombed with VII, Im sure GL would be giddy like a schoolgirl with $4B in his pocket. The man still has conviction and pride in his OWN work, but the sheer force that TFA has become does little to qualm the notion that it overshadowed his previous trilogies. I honestly feel hes regretting selling the franchise to Disney only for the sole reason that someone took the premise of his ideas that he had built and developed for the past 40yrs and was able to improve beyond that.Agree.
The worst part about Lucas is that he didn't take criticism well and instead, doubled down and said things like "These are MY movies!" and stuff like that. Fine, they're your movies and you can do whatever the hell you want, but don't be surprised when people hate them and criticize them. Not only were the prequels turds, but he completely ruined Return of the Jedi with his "special edition" modifications and made Star Wars worse with those same modifications. Hey George, if you're reading this, fuck you.
I think the recent Lucas interview was linked earlier in this thread (if I'm wrong, there are here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIrQUXm_hY). You can tell he is very upset that Disney basically told him to take a hike and I can understand that (he did create SW after all), but what does he expect? It wasn't just a vocal minority who criticized the prequels - almost EVERYONE criticized them. I'm one of the biggest Star Wars fans around and I can tell you, when I walked out of the theater after seeing Episode I the first time, I was in a state of shock. I couldn't believe that George Lucas made such a turd.
Clone Wars traditional animation? Clone Wars GCI? Both?
Agree.
The worst part about Lucas is that he didn't take criticism well and instead, doubled down and said things like "These are MY movies!" and stuff like that. Fine, they're your movies and you can do whatever the hell you want, but don't be surprised when people hate them and criticize them. Not only were the prequels turds, but he completely ruined Return of the Jedi with his "special edition" modifications and made Star Wars worse with those same modifications. Hey George, if you're reading this, fuck you.
I think the recent Lucas interview was linked earlier in this thread (if I'm wrong, there are here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEIrQUXm_hY). You can tell he is very upset that Disney basically told him to take a hike and I can understand that (he did create SW after all), but what does he expect? It wasn't just a vocal minority who criticized the prequels - almost EVERYONE criticized them. I'm one of the biggest Star Wars fans around and I can tell you, when I walked out of the theater after seeing Episode I the first time, I was in a state of shock. I couldn't believe that George Lucas made such a turd.
He’s sour for the fact that TFA did so well with fans and so well-received by critics. Had Disney bombed with VII, I’m sure GL would be giddy like a schoolgirl with $4B in his pocket. The man still has conviction and pride in his OWN work, but the sheer force that TFA has become does little to qualm the notion that it overshadowed his previous trilogies. I honestly feel he’s regretting selling the franchise to Disney only for the sole reason that someone took the premise of his ideas that he had built and developed for the past 40yrs and was able to improve beyond that.
Hes sour for the fact that TFA did so well with fans and so well-received by critics. Had Disney bombed with VII, Im sure GL would be giddy like a schoolgirl with $4B in his pocket. The man still has conviction and pride in his OWN work, but the sheer force that TFA has become does little to qualm the notion that it overshadowed his previous trilogies. I honestly feel hes regretting selling the franchise to Disney only for the sole reason that someone took the premise of his ideas that he had built and developed for the past 40yrs and was able to improve beyond that.
Disney said only movies+clone wars are canon. That's it. Disney didn't want to sift through all the EU stuff, but that didn't mean they would exclude it from films. That's why some of the books may seem relevant.
Yea it doesnt, i think there's some brownie points being thrown in there because it's so refreshing and a big departure from the PT.I'm going to have to be the one star wars fan here who things TFA probably doesn't deserve the 95% rating on Rottentomatoes. I think it's far better than 1 and 2 maybe on par with 3 but I don't think it reaches the same levels of greatness as 4-6.
What's there to hate about it? Some of the comics do nothing more than to appease the fanfic groups. They're so departed from the OT and PT that they might as well not happened. Could you imagine making a film befitting to everything that's going on in the SW EU and hope that you dont step over anything? That's an insane amount of tangental content to be made official.I hate the whole canon/non-canon argument, but I will say that the book mentioned IS official. It was written and released in conjunction with the TFA premiere and deals with Finn, Rey, and Poe prior to the movie.
I watched this interview last week. GL is fuckign insane. He's incredibly bitter that after he sold his "children" to Disney (as he call's them "White Slavers") for FOUR BILLION dollars and his attempts of the prequels being almost unanimously loathed, that they didn't want his help.
They paid you to walk away GL. WALK THE HELL AWAY. You're done.
Yeah. It's a shame he's so bitter about the whole thing, but it just makes it even more obvious that it was better for the franchise for him to be completely removed from it. The fact that he doesn't realize his input would be a detriment just shows how big his ego still is, even after the prequels and the ridiculous edits to the original trilogy.
Also his claiming that he was somehow swindled after getting paid $4 billion is just pathetic.
Really? Let's wait and see what the international box office + merch + licensing totals only 6 months later...and that's just one film.
Oh, and then DVD/Blu Ray sales
This might still be possible....
Leia did guilt Han into bring their son back, and directly caused his death. She could be pulling Ben's(Kylo Ren) strings.... Han did leave her for some unknown amount of time.
It would be amazing if she's actually the one behind Snoke.
I've rewatched Episode 1 and 2 recently
George Lucas created a great world in Episodes 4-6, but he was a horrible director in Episodes 1 & 2
Luke must be pretty jaded about the force at this point considering how much damage it has done to everyone. Why does the Jedi training lead some padawans to go ape shit and want to kill everyone?
Yeah. It's a shame he's so bitter about the whole thing, but it just makes it even more obvious that it was better for the franchise for him to be completely removed from it. The fact that he doesn't realize his input would be a detriment just shows how big his ego still is, even after the prequels and the ridiculous edits to the original trilogy.
Also his claiming that he was somehow swindled after getting paid $4 billion is just pathetic.
I wasn't even aware of the traditional animation one, I assumed CGI.
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-legendary-star-wars-expanded-universe-turns-a-new-page
This includes the six Star Wars episodes, and the many hours of content he developed and produced in Star Wars: The Clone Wars. These stories are the immovable objects of Star Wars history, the characters and events to which all other tales must align.
It reads as though they are more interested in resetting things post Jedi, so maybe both? Dunno.
Actually stuff is getting built so it'll be a while until all that stuff is there. Disneyland is closing down stuff, permanently and temporarily so they can build Star Wars Land so most of that stuff you can't see yet, it's getting finished in 2016.Heading to So. Cal for 12 days next month. I'll be making a trip to Disneyland to see what they have going on for Star Wars after my sister sent me this article.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/star-wars-disneyland-disney-world_5661fc50e4b08e945fef7f38
...and I still don't know which of the three are canon. The cartoon? The CGI movie? The CGI TV show? Which?!
Yeah. It's a shame he's so bitter about the whole thing, but it just makes it even more obvious that it was better for the franchise for him to be completely removed from it. The fact that he doesn't realize his input would be a detriment just shows how big his ego still is, even after the prequels and the ridiculous edits to the original trilogy.
Also his claiming that he was somehow swindled after getting paid $4 billion is just pathetic.
Apparently the older cartoon was call Star Wars: Clone Wars. The newer CGI one was Star Wars: THE Clone Wars, so it seems it's the newer CGI THE Clone Wars.
This.
+ the 6 main movies.
Disney said only movies+clone wars are canon. That's it. Disney didn't want to sift through all the EU stuff, but that didn't mean they would exclude it from films. That's why some of the books may seem relevant.
Honestly, I felt like he was being a bit self-deprecatory there, since just before that he said SW was his kids, and then he sold them off.Yep, sour grapes. Fuck Lucas.
edit: Homerboy hit the nail on the head. Oh FFS, white slavers? Does that make you a slave trader? Just go.
Actually stuff is getting built so it'll be a while until all that stuff is there. Disneyland is closing down stuff, permanently and temporarily so they can build Star Wars Land so most of that stuff you can't see yet, it's getting finished in 2016.