Star Wars: The Force Awakens reviews *SPOILERS*

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gorcorps

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Yeah for me I went into the moving knowing *NOTHING* about the actors or who they were. So I had *ZERO* basis on what the dude under the mask looked like. Then when they revealed his face I was was sitting back going "no way that dumbo eared grease ball is the son of Han Fucking Solo".

I just wasn't prepared for it not knowing who Adam Driver was or what he looked like.

Me either. I was kind of expecting a scar, or some REASON to have a mask but from what I see they just had him wear a mask to look and sound cool. At least with Vader there were hints that he needed the mask, and the breathing helped imply there was some sort of life support involved.

With Ren it was 100% about looks and voice, which I agree is a better choice, but I kind of wish there was a reason for it. Of course then people would bitch that it was even more of a copy... so I don't know.

edit: Now that I think about it, a big ass scar and having one eye messed up would have helped. Show that the mask helps with his vision after losing an eye, and may have made him more menacing looking without the mask.
 
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zinfamous

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He is executive producer for episode 8 (according to wiki) and then has no role at all as of yet for episode 9. He might have had some influence on episode 8, but it will be very limited I'm sure. I just don't get how you could have a franchise like that directed by 3 different people, for 3 different films.

Other than the original trilogy, you mean?

:hmm:
 

NuclearNed

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The greatest mystery of the Star Wars universe is how Kylo Ren's hair keeps that glorious full body after being held captive all day in a steamy helmet. Explain that one, and "but... but... the Force" isn't an acceptable answer.
 

zephyrprime

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The greatest mystery of the Star Wars universe is how Kylo Ren's hair keeps that glorious full body after being held captive all day in a steamy helmet. Explain that one, and "but... but... the Force" isn't an acceptable answer.
They have the technology to go faster than light so obviously they have the Paul Mitchell tech to keep that body.
 

blankslate

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Right. I said it was the first theory.
The HOT theory right now is that she's a Kenobi.

Maybe both? If Kenobi's grandchild was a female that's still the right age for her to make nooky with Luke. And two force sensitive people being her parents might explain Rey's affinity with the force despite her limited training (if any but the vision convinces me she had some).

The greatest mystery of the Star Wars universe is how Kylo Ren's hair keeps that glorious full body after being held captive all day in a steamy helmet. Explain that one, and "but... but... the Force" isn't an acceptable answer.

Garnier Fructise.... Emo Kylo Ren complained about Chewie using his shampoo before.




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sactoking

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If he really was well into corruption, he should have some freaky skin discoloration and maybe some face scars from his first hilarious attempts to generate force lightning. As far as I know, those sith lords didn't wear masks because they thought it made them look badass--it's because it was important to hide their identities when starting on teh path and eventually because their faces were so utterly fucked from darkside corruption.

Well, that's the point. He's NOT that far down the path of corruption. He idolizes Vader and wants to be like him, but he can't bring himself to do the same types of horrible things. He has a conscience. He doesn't want to kill Han, and the whole conversation with him has double meaning. He actively hopes that Snoke can't detect the light still in him.

Me either. I was kind of expecting a scar, or some REASON to have a mask but from what I see they just had him wear a mask to look and sound cool.

There was a reason, it just wasn't physical. Like many people, children and adults, he idolized someone and used his clothing to express that idolatry. Think of it as the Star Wars version of an adult wearing a Packers jersey or cheesehead hat.
 

jpiniero

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Passed Dances with Aliens to be #1 domestically, but only barely... and DwA made more on the equivalent Monday.

Like I mentioned, TFA is fun but it's not that good to warrant multiple viewings. I imagine it will fall like a rock now.
 

Phoenix86

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May 21, 2003
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sooooooo........ Lukes daughter?

Luke has a sister. Han left her for some time, it's possible (though unlikely for several reasons) she had a baby he didn't know about. So most likely Luke's daughter in that case, but there are other possibilities.

There's also the Kenobi theory.
 

Slew Foot

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Luke has a sister. Han left her for some time, it's possible (though unlikely for several reasons) she had a baby he didn't know about. So most likely Luke's daughter in that case, but there are other possibilities.

There's also the Kenobi theory.

So while han was away, Leia did the nasty with Lando which explains Rey trying to put her hair in corn rows and her affinity for black males. got it.



 

Phoenix86

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So while han was away, Leia did the nasty with Lando which explains Rey trying to put her hair in corn rows and her affinity for black males. got it.




Han got Leia preggers, left before she found out about the baby, and didn't tell him because he checked out.

Weak plot for sure, but possible.
 

Hugo Drax

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Notice also the difference in acting between this movie and Phantom Menace. Episode I acting was so wooden and dry it was like people reading from TelePrompTers.

What the heck was up with that?
 

zinfamous

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Notice also the difference in acting between this movie and Phantom Menace. Episode I acting was so wooden and dry it was like people reading from TelePrompTers.

What the heck was up with that?

working in a green room and trying to act with invisible cartoons created in post does that.

it also doesn't help that your director hates you and your profession
 
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JEDI

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Popular theory is she is a grand daughter of Padme.

emo Ryo Ken's twin sister, like in the Expanded Universe.
again, if they follow tat path, she's going to eventually kill him because she couldn't turn him back to the light.

heck, if they go that far, then Leia's going to be a Jedi as well (if she wasn't one already)
 

Charmonium

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no, that's Finn
I hope you're joking. If Rey and Finn are essentially recasting Luke and Leia, only with the genders reversed but similar roles . . . that's going to be too much. It would fit with their choice to emulate so much of IV. We should probably take that as an indication that is exactly what they're going to do.
 

Hugo Drax

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Rey and Finn definitely have the old school Star Wars chemistry so I can see it working.
 

zinfamous

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Anyone seen Kevin Smith's initial "fangasm" review.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lfocnclUFQ

basically, "Everything is amazing!"

I didn't notice this before, and not sure if it's legit, but one of his friends pointed out that Finn being in sanitation was a reference to Clerks. (Randal's dialogue about the Death Star contractors). Would be funny if true; Smith says "this is too beyond meta for me"
 
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