Star Wars: The Force Awakens reviews *SPOILERS*

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zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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I mean, I don't even...

No wonder your bro just stays out of these things when you go off.
 

destrekor

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Honestly, I was kinda hoping he would kill Ewan McGregor because he was goddamn awful. Made me hate Obi-Wan. (again, not blaming Ewan for that one)

I know, right?!

That series clearly laid out how terrible of a director (you know, directing your talent on set, not just coming up with ideas) he truly was when nobody questioned him. And he never saw the horrible wooden acting.

I've said numerous times, almost all of the actors in the prequel trilogy were A+ actors, golden, with wonderful acting credits in their resume. And then he got his hands on them and made them look like high school drama dropouts. It was painful. Hayden can act, and coupling his best performances with better dialog on Star Wars would have been a very compelling Anakin-Vader transformation. Instead, Lucas can't write dialog and can't detect bad acting. To be fair, you can only act your way out of a box if given at least a something to work with, and Lucas provided no assistance.

Every single actor/actress in that movie, at least those with other credits to their name, has performed admirably both before and after those movies. T'is a shame. The story was just fine IMHO, tweaked a bit could have been grand, and the themes really lent themselves to a great movie. As a younger kid when those movies came out, I thoroughly enjoyed Jar Jar. I mean, he's like a squirrel embodied in a humanoid frog. I loved it! Frankly, I still do, but it was drastically out of place for the movie after more than a few moments. I'd love to sit down and watch all of the movies again, but I just cannot bring myself to watch the prequels because of the dreadful dialog and acting.

But Episode 1 was awesome... we need more pod racing games. The few they had around that time were epic.
 

Ichinisan

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But realize the whole point of Ren is that you're supposed to sort of like him... he's a Solo for God's sake. He's NOT pure evil -- that is why he struggles throughout the movie.

He WILL be redeemed by the end of EP9 -- most likely by the hand of Rey. They are relatives of some sort, and together they will overthrow Snoke. You're not supposed to hate Ren. You're supposed to, and will end up cheering for him in the end as Snoke and the First Order is defeated.

If they make him "hateable" now, then you will never cheer for him.

be prepared for another "copy" of EP6 -- were Vader... I mean Ren is redeemed in the end.

He executes the innocent villagers. I think we're supposed to hate him.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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I don't like him at all. I want to punch him in the face.

Not because he's a bad guy, but because he's an emo twit.

Perhaps that's why he wears the mask, so other people don't punch him in his emo twit face.

Again, this could have been entirely resolved by:

1. Not taking off his mask in front of Rey during the interrogation (too soon!).

2. Only taking the mask off on the catwalk when confronted by his parents. Then, as he moved to strike down Han with his lightsaber, Leia jumps in front & dies instead. We see his shock turn to resolve, then he beheads Han & their bodies fall into the abyss. NOW he's a bad guy. NOW we see the child become a man...of darkness. This is his turning point to become like Vader. THAT is the ending that would have cemented Kylo as the next great villain in cinema. Instead, he's an emo whiner who throws temper tantrums.

I'm currently trying to convince my friend who looks vaguely like him to grow out his hair so I can film my own Phantom Edit version
 

Kaido

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Also, did Kylo get hit in the face at all during any of the fight scenes? Dude needs some scars to give him street cred. He needs a blaster or lightsaber scratch or two to make him look legit
 

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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Also, did Kylo get hit in the face at all during any of the fight scenes? Dude needs some scars to give him street cred. He needs a blaster or lightsaber scratch or two to make him look legit

A blaster or lightsaber.... How about a light saberpistol? Pistols incorporated into swords is a real thing! Would be more useful than the cross guard.
 

Wordplay

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So I seen the movie today and it was OK I guess. Felt like I was watching episode 4 again but this time the villain was a putz.

First few scenes he seemed like a real bad guy, but then he had a temper tantrum and it ruined his whole vibe. Then comes his big scene that is suppose to show his complete fall to the dark side and... no eye color change. Above all that I just couldn't stand the actor, he sucked the big one.
 
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