Saw today & thought it was fantastic... and btw avoiding ALL spoiler-laden trailers/previews/etc is highly recommended.
I did not like it either.I saw it last night as well. While it felt like something new unlike Ep 7, it also felt like it didn't know what it wanted to be. I left unsatisfied and the more I've thought about it today, the less I like it. The whole thing is a mess actually. No compelling story or plot to speak of. The entire side plot was unnecessary. Something just feels off about these new movies.
You said this better than I didIt's almost like Johnson didn't agree with Abrahm's vision going forward so killed off Snoke with no explanation of who he was, Rey's parents are junkers and irrelevant, Phasma is killed off with little fanfare, Finn does almost nothing and what he does do proves useless, Luke finally agrees to do something at the end by astrally projecting and it kills him, etc. All the things that we were left in suspense of at the end of TFA is unceremoniously ignored, disregarded, or killed off.
What we're left with is a typical Hollywood film with a thick candy shell and little of substance inside.
The reveal of Rey's parents being part sellers (just like she was in Episode VII) felt like a huge "got'cha!" to fans as they set up the whole brother and sister arc the whole time. (Especially with the two being force linked, which is what you see with Luke and Leia.)
Here's the thing... there's actually nothing wrong with being cookie cutter or using tropes. You can still entertain the viewer in other ways even if it follows a beat similar to things that they've already seen.
The whole Finn and Rose side story was stupid. If they never did what they did, all of the escape ships would have made it to the planet safely.
Other than that, I enjoyed the movie for what it was; mindless entertainment.
I did not like it either.
They killed off Snoke so easily, like he wasn't even important. Why the hell even have him in the damn movies if he's not even going to matter. Just like Captain Phasma. Too many throw away enemies they tried to make important but did nothing. Just like in TFA, showed Kylo Ren as being Han Solo's child right away. They didn't even wait until the end of the movie for it. Also so now only Kylo Ren is the big baddie in the next movie. Plus Ren is randomly super powerful in the force for no reason.
I'm sorry but these are horrible Star Wars movies. They don't even set up stuff for the long run. They don't seem to be saving any special surprises for the last movie at all.
I liked it.Huh, why wouldn't they show Kylo Ren as Han Solo's son? And why wouldn't they make Kylo Ren as the big bad guy in the next movie? The movie confirmed that he can't be turned. Plus, good to see people dying in the movies, why want to see the same bad guys over and over.
Has a Star Destroyer attacked any ships in the movies? Seems they just stand off and let the TIE fighters and such do the fighting.I figure there is a very good chance he was lying to get her to join him
Sure but at some point the Empire really should learn to stop building huge things. Its getting tiresome how easily they are destroyed. Also the whole 'cornered ship makes suicidal run' thing is incredibly over used. While the special effects of the suicide were incredibly well done, as soon as the first transport was destroyed I knew the Admiral was going to do something like that to save everyone
Also was there something in the sale of Star Wars to Disney that they have to kill off everyone in the old series? Ackbar's dead, Han's dead, Luke will probably make an appearance in blue but is done, Leia will die in the next one, Lando won't return. Most of their death's aren't even that notable. I didn't even know it was Ackbar from the 4 words said in passing until someone said "Ackbar and everyone on the bridge is gone". Oh ok.
I don't know - it wasn't bad and there were some very good plot twists that I didn't expect so I enjoyed it but it still feels like the overall story lines are too close to the original. "But we made it different by changing a few small things and killing off all the old people!" Its not Super Star Destroyers but Dreadnoughts - although a Dreadnought can still be killed by a single person just like a Super Star Destroyer. The last Jedi master is in hiding and doesn't want to train the last best hope for therebellionresistance because of his past failures that lead to the current situation. Its not a moon base that can kill planets but a planet that can kill planets. Its not an white ice planet the base is on but a white desert planet. (And the ground troops still get destroyed by the walkers. Seriously wtf is a trench going to do against something like that?)
Yes. Multiple times. Return of the Jedi, for one.Has a Star Destroyer attacked any ships in the movies? Seems they just stand off and let the TIE fighters and such do the fighting.
They could have at least waited until near the end of the movie for them to let the audience know its Han Solo's son. They left no mystery to the character.
Because Kylo Ren is not a good bad guy, especially by himself. They have him act like a little child, throw temper tantrums when he's angry, doesn't seem really all that evil and that Snoke was so important to him turning to the dark side but oh they killed him off so easily so he doesn't have much motivation to be evil anymore other than for thenlm to push the storyline.
There was still doubt in Kylo Ren turning or not. That's why he killed Snoke.
And god the whole let's let them run out of gas to capture them instead of umm using the tie fighters they have at their disposal. Such a stupid plot point to this movie. Plus Fin and Rose, them going to Canto Bight basically could have not happened at all. Did nothing for the film.
I was super hyped for this movie, super hyped, but Rian Johnson basically said fuck The Force Awakens and threw everything away he didn't like, not concerned whether it was important to the three story arc or not. This was its own self contained movie, not part of a three part series at all.