Star Wars VIII: The Last Jedi

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pete6032

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What was the deal with the last scene where the kid is telling others a story about Luke Skywalker and the he steps outside and starts sweeping the floor and sees rebel ships? Did I see correctly that the kid used the force to pick up the broom or did I not see that?
 

Starbuck1975

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Jan 6, 2005
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What was the deal with the last scene where the kid is telling others a story about Luke Skywalker and the he steps outside and starts sweeping the floor and sees rebel ships? Did I see correctly that the kid used the force to pick up the broom or did I not see that?
Yeah, I thought he used the force to grab the broom
 

madoka

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On yoda, you could tell it was an actual puppet, that was awesome. His humor felt out of place for the time but Yoda gonna Yoda so it was actually fitting for him.

Luke still had things he could learn from Yoda.

 

K1052

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Aug 21, 2003
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I always saw the imperial officer corps as arrogant, manipulative, highly political and opportunistic. R1 built on that brilliantly.

The First Order officers are comic relief.

R1 looked more like run of the mill petty office politics just at higher stakes. Like we really brought Tarkin back just to be that boss who takes all the credit for the work after someone else does it? Thought it was boring and not very interesting.

R1 painted the officers as generally bewildered, slow to react, and not particularly bright.
 

local

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To borrow from the first episode of The Orville. They have millions of ships, bases, fighters, army divisions, sanitation regiments, prisons and shield generators. It is safe to say most of those officers were nobody's first choice for the job.
 

Pipeline 1010

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I think the entire theme of this movie was summed up in the Yoda/Luke scene, when Yoda pointed out that failure is the greatest teacher. Just about everything the good guys tried to do ended in failure. And they all learned and grew from it. Other than a way too long Las Vegas adventure, and other than Leia's Superman pose, I really liked this movie...yes, even as A STAR WARS MOVIE.

Hold on a sec I'm dressing in my finest flame retardant clothing.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
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irony:
leia outlives Han and Luke, and will make it to Episode IX.
yet she's dead in real life.

Long live CGI Leia!
 

Skel

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I think the entire theme of this movie was summed up in the Yoda/Luke scene, when Yoda pointed out that failure is the greatest teacher. Just about everything the good guys tried to do ended in failure. And they all learned and grew from it. Other than a way too long Las Vegas adventure, and other than Leia's Superman pose, I really liked this movie...yes, even as A STAR WARS MOVIE.

Hold on a sec I'm dressing in my finest flame retardant clothing.

I refer to it as the "Mary Poppins scene" as that's what it reminded me of.
 

Starbuck1975

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Jan 6, 2005
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R1 looked more like run of the mill petty office politics just at higher stakes. Like we really brought Tarkin back just to be that boss who takes all the credit for the work after someone else does it? Thought it was boring and not very interesting.

R1 painted the officers as generally bewildered, slow to react, and not particularly bright.
Interesting how people see different things.

In ANH and ESB, we already saw bickering amongst the imperial officer class. Even in ANH there was a certain edge to Tarkin's character, and I thought R1 was an interesting extension of his character.

Also, I thought the imperial response on Scarif was fairly brutal. Blue squadron got wiped out. Red and gold squadrons took heavy casualties. The Rebels lost several major cruisers. All their ground troops and the R1 team itself got killed. It was hardly an easy victory.

The only thing that didnt work for me was the Tantive IV turduckened inside the main rebel cruiser...that ending doesn't smoothly reconcile with the opening of ANH, but it would only take a small adjustment to make it work.
 

Thebobo

Lifer
Jun 19, 2006
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Not sure if this has been posted but the folks on the ISS watched the last Jedi.

Space Station movie night, complete with “bungee cord chairs”, drink bags, and a science fiction flick!
 
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Paratus

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Jun 4, 2004
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Not sure if this has been posted but the folks on the ISS watched the last Jedi.

Space Station movie night, complete with “bungee cord chairs”, drink bags, and a science fiction flick!
Yup they flew a projector and pull down screen a few years ago.

It blocks one of the hatches so they can’t leave it up all the time.
 

Paratus

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Jun 4, 2004
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Your Boy Kylo reacts to the Last Jedi.



You didn’t think that was his only helmet did you?
 

blankslate

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Your Boy Kylo reacts to the Last Jedi.



You didn’t think that was his only helmet did you?

Beat me to it...

It's also a crapton more entertaining than Rian "Idon'tgiveAFFaboutSWyoufrackingNerds" Johnson's abortion of a movie....


________________
 

Fritzo

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Jan 3, 2001
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plot holes galore.

1) bombers that fly so close together that if one gets destroyed, it takes out the rest?
these are trained pilots. why the F are they flying so close together?!

2) how did the codebreaker know about the escape transports trying to slip away to the mining colony?

3) and wtf side quest to find the code breaker!??!

also negative points for violating Chekov's Gun... show Luke's X-wing yet not have Luke use it.

an incoherent mess indeed, altho I do give props for CGI Leia.
it looked like her.

Hopefully there will be a Director's cut.
the again, I was hoping the Force Awakens would have a director's cut...

Also, if one bomber could take out an entire ship, why did they send them all at one ship and not groups at others?
 

Fritzo

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I think the entire theme of this movie was summed up in the Yoda/Luke scene, when Yoda pointed out that failure is the greatest teacher. Just about everything the good guys tried to do ended in failure. And they all learned and grew from it. Other than a way too long Las Vegas adventure, and other than Leia's Superman pose, I really liked this movie...yes, even as A STAR WARS MOVIE.

Hold on a sec I'm dressing in my finest flame retardant clothing.

I liked it too, but just feel they REALLY mishandled Luke. The fact that he used a trick to fight the last battle, then just simply disappeared was a HUGH F**K Y*U to fans. Here's how it should have went:
- Luke realizes he must act, and raises his X-Wing out of the water (like in Empire Strikes Back)
- He flies to his friends, and faces the armada as shown.
- Ren orders everything to shoot Luke, and when the explosions and dust fade, we see Luke force-holding the laser bolts from the AT-ATs (like Ren did in The Force Awakens)
- Ren gets a look of panic as he realizes what Luke is about to do...then the bolts come hurling back at the AT-AT's...destroying them all.
- Ren's AT-AT falls to the ground. He's injured, but filled with rage and goes to face Luke to take him down personally.
- We have an epic saber battle showing Luke at the top of his game- ala Yoda in The Clone Wars
- Ren realizes he can not defeat his former master, and tricks Luke into an escape.
- Luke turns around to everyone looking in awe, then agrees to train Rey

That's what EVERYONE wanted. Luke was free to die in the next movie. Just that one last "This is why Luke is a hero" moment, then pass the torch.

The other scene that bothered me was Admiral Holdo's entire screen presence. She started a mutiny because she withheld information (which smacks of a script rewrite that didn't go smoothly), and her sole role seemed to be "let's cram another powerful woman in here to show feminine power!" Meanwhile, the iconic Admiral Ackbar was blown into space without a single line. I realize the actor that played him died, but anyone could have done Ackbar. Holdo's part should have belonged to Ackbar. Send him out by doing a light-speed ship plowing. THAT'S how we want an iconic character to go out!

I liked the movie, but the lack of respect just seemed insulting. I'm thinking if Rian Johnson was given the Star Trek franchise to direct, he would kill Capt. Kirk in a transporter accident.
 
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TheVrolok

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Dec 11, 2000
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Agreed entirely. I find it cathartic to come in here from time to time and simply agree with all the incredibly obvious and painful failures of this movie. I thought I was over it, but I'm not.
 

Franz316

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This guy hilariously explains why this movie is so bad.


Edit: Someone beat me to it on the page before, but it's good enough to see twice.
 

Nashemon

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I wouldn't go that far. It may be true for things with raving lunatics for fans, but it doesn't apply to the majority of movies. For Star Wars I would say that critics and fans are both looking to get something completely different out of each movie. For example, I'm surprised by the number of people using the fact that there wasn't any real light saber battles as a detractor. Fans want to see epic light saber battles apparently (which was never what Star Wars was about until the prequels). I don't think there's much of a record of fan reviews from 1980, though, as there wasn't really a platform for them to have been archived.
Apparently there was!

https://geektyrant.com/news/star-wa...e-same-way-fans-are-reacting-to-the-last-jedi
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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SPOILERS

You know, I used to think there was an interesting answer to this question, and then I watched TLJ and realized there isn't. Stop looking for a piece of evidence to confirm or deny a theory - you are giving the writers too much credit.

We got the reveal at the end of TLJ that Rey's parents were nobodies, and I think that is how it will stay. I will be surprised if they reveal that she is really Chewbacca's daughter or something.

There is no interesting answer to the question of who Rey's parents are because the trilogy itself is just not that interesting.

I think the only thing that revealed about Rey's parents is that Kylo Ren saw what Kylo saw. But, yes, it's possible that they were nobodies in the same sense that Vader's parents were nobodies. I think there are only two real possibilities for Rey:

--She's a Skywalker. Either Luke's, or she's Kylo's Twin. I mean, these movies can't think up anything new, so she has to be a Skywalker, right...and a twin, right? With the force sensitives at the academy that Luke trained, the only ones that could ever be as powerful as Kylo or Rey, would have to be Skywalkers. They are the only true Jedi line that remains. Others could be force sensitive, but never as powerful.

or

--She's a bullshit immaculate Force baby like Vader in those stupid fucking stupid prequel movies. She was born to some hobos and has that power. I don't get how she is able to command it so easily though, without any training (the previous movie). I think she is clearly more powerful than Kylo and likely could be stronger than Luke. It makes more sense to me, still, that Luke whisked her away and implanted false memories in her. Him not telling her is just him not telling her (though, I do think he would have revealed that to her before he decided to do...what he did in this flick). Kylo couldn't see that truth because Kylo just isn't that strong, and Rey in the rather pointless mirror cave scene is still blocked out of that truth. It's implanted deep, and they are only able to see what whoever wants them to see about her.

Also, this movie was an extended slow-mo chase scene. what gives?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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What was the deal with the last scene where the kid is telling others a story about Luke Skywalker and the he steps outside and starts sweeping the floor and sees rebel ships? Did I see correctly that the kid used the force to pick up the broom or did I not see that?

"This is how the rebellion survives." Pretty much the exact line that lead into, and directly explained that scene, lol.

Yes, he force-grabbed the broom.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
110,810
29,564
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I liked it too, but just feel they REALLY mishandled Luke. The fact that he used a trick to fight the last battle, then just simply disappeared was a HUGH F**K Y*U to fans. Here's how it should have went:
- Luke realizes he must act, and raises his X-Wing out of the water (like in Empire Strikes Back)
- He flies to his friends, and faces the armada as shown.
- Ren orders everything to shoot Luke, and when the explosions and dust fade, we see Luke force-holding the laser bolts from the AT-ATs (like Ren did in The Force Awakens)
- Ren gets a look of panic as he realizes what Luke is about to do...then the bolts come hurling back at the AT-AT's...destroying them all.
- Ren's AT-AT falls to the ground. He's injured, but filled with rage and goes to face Luke to take him down personally.
- We have an epic saber battle showing Luke at the top of his game- ala Yoda in The Clone Wars
- Ren realizes he can not defeat his former master, and tricks Luke into an escape.
- Luke turns around to everyone looking in awe, then agrees to train Rey

That's what EVERYONE wanted. Luke was free to die in the next movie. Just that one last "This is why Luke is a hero" moment, then pass the torch.

The other scene that bothered me was Admiral Holdo's entire screen presence. She started a mutiny because she withheld information (which smacks of a script rewrite that didn't go smoothly), and her sole role seemed to be "let's cram another powerful woman in here to show feminine power!" Meanwhile, the iconic Admiral Ackbar was blown into space without a single line. I realize the actor that played him died, but anyone could have done Ackbar. Holdo's part should have belonged to Ackbar. Send him out by doing a light-speed ship plowing. THAT'S how we want an iconic character to go out!

I liked the movie, but the lack of respect just seemed insulting. I'm thinking if Rian Johnson was given the Star Trek franchise to direct, he would kill Capt. Kirk in a transporter accident.

I, too, expected Luke to fly his X-Wing in and take out the lazer ram when the rebel speeders retreated. What a colossal shit this movie took on Luke. Just, utterly epic shit to underuse Luke. We've been waiting for 3 decades for that guy to actually show up in film form and kick major fucking ass, and they do this. what the holy shit.

I will just stick to my memories of Dark Empire Luke, where he clears a battlefield and destroys a few walkers, repelling their blasts. I mean, wtf Last Jedi? Luke was just a hobo



And look at this shit. He infiltrates the Empire, becomes the risen Emperor's apprentice, commands the entire Imperial fleet with his force power, and the emperor never fucking knows what is going on:


This is the Luke Skywalker and the episodes 7-9 stories that we should have. Disney fucked the pooch with this. ...but they won't care as long as they are breaking records.
 

glenn1

Lifer
Sep 6, 2000
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I, too, expected Luke to fly his X-Wing in and take out the lazer ram when the rebel speeders retreated. What a colossal shit this movie took on Luke. Just, utterly epic shit to underuse Luke. We've been waiting for 3 decades for that guy to actually show up in film form and kick major fucking ass, and they do this. what the holy shit.

You mean how Vader got used at the end of Rogue One?

 
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