Starcraft patch 1.12 RELEASED!!!

[MetalMat]

Originally posted by: aRCeNiTe

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: EpsiIon

Originally posted by: Ready
people still play sc for some odd reason even though wc3ft has better custom games.

Your logic... it's so... pure.

Might it be possible that the people who are playing Starcraft aren't playing custom games?

BTW, DotA > any RTS custom map, ever. Heck, I think it's better than regular WC3.

what is DotA?

a very fun WC3 map

What makes it so different? I went to the website and did not get much info on it.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

ok I take that back, they do start out with info and does not need to scout things out. But really, the AI is pretty easy to beat.

 

[Electric Amish]

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

ok I take that back, they do start out with info and does not need to scout things out. But really, the AI is pretty easy to beat.

My friends and I could never beat it.

 

[Ausm]

Originally posted by: PeteRoy
people play sc for the reason that it is a lot more fun than wc3.

I Agree!

Ausm

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: aRCeNiTe

Originally posted by: MetalMat

Originally posted by: EpsiIon

Originally posted by: Ready
people still play sc for some odd reason even though wc3ft has better custom games.

Your logic... it's so... pure.

Might it be possible that the people who are playing Starcraft aren't playing custom games?

BTW, DotA > any RTS custom map, ever. Heck, I think it's better than regular WC3.

what is DotA?

a very fun WC3 map

What makes it so different? I went to the website and did not get much info on it.

Whoa, I thought I was the only one that played DotA.
DotA = Defense of the Ancients

Basically it is a 5v5 (2 teams of 5) WC3 custom map, where you only control 1 hero (out of 40ish) and try to level him up.
You gain money by killing opposing heroes and creep to buy items to make your hero more powerful. Very RPG'ish.
The goal is to kill the enemy base, which are on opposite corners, but along the path, there are towers that need to be taken out.

It takes a few games, maybe 10-15 to get a good feel for the game.
It's the only map I play in WC3... I suck in melee

 

[0roo0roo]

valve should learn something from blizzard. no antihack updates for cs source or anything grrrr...let alone simple features that were in the original, like team balancing or damage readouts...blah

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

ok I take that back, they do start out with info and does not need to scout things out. But really, the AI is pretty easy to beat.

My friends and I could never beat it.

when I first started, I couldn't beat AI either but after a while you realize how stupid the AI is.

 

[0roo0roo]

yea the ai was rather easily beatable. its not at all sneaky.

 

[MetalMat]

Talkin about the AI, anyone know about the SCV trick?

This is how dumb the AI is in SC, basically if you want to win early in the game take one of your basic builder units and go to the enemy base. When you get there, attack one the the computers buildings and All of the computers builder units will try to attack your builder unit. Simply run your builder unit around the map while the computer's builder units follow it. The computer will not build and more units and will have no money. Take a marine/zerg/zealot whatever over to his base and you win.

 

[buddry]

Its a great game to play but they are all plagued with leavers. I would play it a lot more but it is so rare to find a decent game.

 

[amoeba]

its pretty easy to find a decent game.

just play one of the leagues like WGTOUR or PGTOUR or neogamei.

there are also several afficinados on ATOT such as myself that are always willing to play a game.

 

[0roo0roo]

most of the time we just sealed ourselves off from the center in bgh... then go heavy air. as long as you are reasonably fast builder the comp can't overwhelm u.

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
most of the time we just sealed ourselves off from the center in bgh... then go heavy air. as long as you are reasonably fast builder the comp can't overwhelm u.

play low money maps.

money maps against comps are too easy. you don't even need heavy air, mass ground works just as well.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: MetalMat
Talkin about the AI, anyone know about the SCV trick?

This is how dumb the AI is in SC, basically if you want to win early in the game take one of your basic builder units and go to the enemy base. When you get there, attack one the the computers buildings and All of the computers builder units will try to attack your builder unit. Simply run your builder unit around the map while the computer's builder units follow it. The computer will not build and more units and will have no money. Take a marine/zerg/zealot whatever over to his base and you win.

I remember that, hahaha....

 

[psteng19]

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
most of the time we just sealed ourselves off from the center in bgh... then go heavy air. as long as you are reasonably fast builder the comp can't overwhelm u.

Why do people still play against comps?
I haven't played against comps since I was a noob in early 1998.
Wow, it's been 6 years... testament to a good game :thumbsup:

 

[amoeba]

Originally posted by: psteng19

Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
most of the time we just sealed ourselves off from the center in bgh... then go heavy air. as long as you are reasonably fast builder the comp can't overwhelm u.

Why do people still play against comps?
I haven't played against comps since I was a noob in early 1998.
Wow, it's been 6 years... testament to a good game :thumbsup:

eh, if thats what they enjoy, its what they enjoy. Who are we to judge?

I prefer good games against humans but I'll slap around a few computer opponents for kicks.

 

[stickybytes]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

ok I take that back, they do start out with info and does not need to scout things out. But really, the AI is pretty easy to beat.

My friends and I could never beat it.

here is my little rundown on the sc AI:

the starcraft AI is very fascinating. if you let the comp build long enough, it WILL go advanced tech and build high-end units like battlecruisers, guardians, and carriers. i have tried beating anywhere from 1-7 comps and the most i could beat was 4 in bgh. if you let a terran comp build too long, it will own you and fustrate you with the constant ghost lockdowns and cloaked wraiths and goliaths. if you play against 2 or more protoss comp, be wary of the early zealot rush when the comp is completely cheesy and sends 30+ zealots at you.

a zerg ally can be a very important asset because it uses the lurker/hydra combo very effectively provided that you "pave the way". what i mean is that you gotta weaken the comp pretty badly before the comp decides to even budge. don't count on a comp ally to bail you out when you are attacked, it rarely does. i have yet to successfully beat 3+ comps using ground alone, i always end up using a arbiter recall or mass carriers.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish

Originally posted by: amoeba

Originally posted by: Electric Amish
Does the AI still cheat?

AI never cheated in starcraft ( ie gained more minerals, etc...)

Yes it did.

It starts out with the information of where every resource is located and where every other player is located. Whereas the human player has to find all these things himself.

ok I take that back, they do start out with info and does not need to scout things out. But really, the AI is pretty easy to beat.

My friends and I could never beat it.

no offence, but you and your friends were not very good players at all

 

[Ninepepper]

It is tough to become proficient in SC and WC against real life opponets. The single player missions, while often varied and a blast to play, don't really prepare you for the thumping you will exprience on the net against a better opponet. The single player missions simply don't do enough on their own. I could never learn the hotkeys, which IMHO, are necessary to do well. I could learn all the build orders, clone, and properly build a mix of air and land units, but my not being able to remember all the hotkeys always caused a problem. You simply can't move and click that mouse fast enough against someone who has all their control groups memorized and doesn't need to use the mouse commands to build their units.

I have a serious Love/Hate relationship with all RTS because of hotkeys and build orders.

 

[Anubis]

it still does not run ay a higher res then 640x480

they REALLY need to fix that

 

[faenix]

Changed Speed from "Fast" to Fastest" for Ladder Games.

That came 6 years too late.

 

[stickybytes]

This patch alone has made more changes to sc than all the patches released in the past 3 years.

 

[OverVolt]

ahhh starcraft, that game is great, name is chc05dude, or Q-Tip[m], and i'll game with you if your good enough good gamers are hard to find on b.net and im really sick of noob allies, which is why i stopped playing, but i'll be on from time to time, i'll play anything (lt, hunts, bgh, $$$, microislands, random map, anything)

Also the kiddies who are 12 and trade starcraft names are pathetic, and download mass loading bots and spam spam channels, its just a retard fest. I could never find a good channel to find some good allies besides x17, motel, cao ect ect. But they are all "kknothx-gg-no-re gosu gosu kekekekek ^_^" and i can't stand to be around them more than 5seconds.

If you can't beat the comps SC is not for you. It's not really the hotkeys, but the strategy that you learn to use in different situations. Takes a little time to learn but not much if you grasp this kind of thing fast.

 

[Ninepepper]

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