States voting for marijuana out of luck?

Sonikku

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Jun 23, 2005
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There is a federal ban on marijuana that Obama chose not to enforce. But the GoP would. And the GoP stands to gain control over all branches of government in 2017. Are the states about to be overruled by federal government?
 

z1ggy

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May 17, 2008
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I always find it funny when GoP'ers are always saying "we want less government", yet they are always the ones wanting to tell women how to plan a family, and for people to use a recreational drug.
 

Ruptga

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Aug 3, 2006
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It's a definite possibility. At this point pretty much everything is baseless speculation though. We'll probably know more in a few weeks.
 

Chaotic42

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Jun 15, 2001
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I always find it funny when GoP'ers are always saying "we want less government", yet they are always the ones wanting to tell women how to plan a family, and for people to use a recreational drug.

Yeah, I've never understood that either.
 

TwiceOver

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Dec 20, 2002
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Trump's a business man. A Nevada business man. Not a chance.

As for the abortion comments above, it all depends on if you think a baby human has rights or not. Easy as that.
 

repoman0

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What exactly would be the mechanism of an overruling? What happens when a pretty large percentage of states tells the federal government to F off?
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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Trump's a business man. A Nevada business man. Not a chance.

As for the abortion comments above, it all depends on if you think a baby human has rights or not. Easy as that.
Nope, it's not as easy as that, shockingly enough!
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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What exactly would be the mechanism of an overruling? What happens when a pretty large percentage of states tells the federal government to F off?
A. Federal raids on grow operations/stores.

B. Dunno, but it probably wouldn't be pretty.
 

Ruptga

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Aug 3, 2006
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Nope, it's not as easy as that, shockingly enough!
That. And he's missed the point because actual abortion is only a part of it. Even a simple condom is controversial in some peoples' bizarre minds, forget the more complicated stuff like insurance coverage of birth control pills.
 

Ns1

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Jun 17, 2001
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A. Federal raids on grow operations/stores.

B. Dunno, but it probably wouldn't be pretty.

Good thing CA allows for 6 plants, unless they plan to send the Feds knocking on every door.
 
Nov 20, 2009
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I always find it funny when GoP'ers are always saying "we want less government", yet they are always the ones wanting to tell women how to plan a family, and for people to use a recreational drug.
Government telling women how to plan a family? How about people making babies be responsible in the first place? Use of recreational drugs? I'm for it as long as it doesn't affect ME. But it makes little sense in state or federal governments to bother even addressing things like this. Have employers make the decision on their employees and fire at will. Want a dozen kids? You pay 100% for them. Your choices, your decisions and only your wallet [and not mine] pays for it all.
 

z1ggy

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May 17, 2008
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Government telling women how to plan a family? How about people making babies be responsible in the first place? Use of recreational drugs? I'm for it as long as it doesn't affect ME. But it makes little sense in state or federal governments to bother even addressing things like this. Have employers make the decision on their employees and fire at will. Want a dozen kids? You pay 100% for them. Your choices, your decisions and only your wallet [and not mine] pays for it all.
That still doesn't answer the point of my comment: Republican's whole thesis is "Get out of muh life gubbinment!!" yet they are insistent on making laws regarding abortion, which is argueably one of the most personal issues a person could face.

The weed thing should be a state decision, not federal. The only reason it's even illegal anyway is so we can fill up our good ol private prisons. Profits, profits, profits!!!!
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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There is a federal ban on marijuana that Obama chose not to enforce. But the GoP would. And the GoP stands to gain control over all branches of government in 2017. Are the states about to be overruled by federal government?

Recreational marijuana legalization and medical marijuana reform do well when on ballots on their own. I think Obama stayed out of the way because he saw the writing on the wall. Pretty good chance the GOP will do the same. The country is slowly but surely turning pro-pot. Why waste the political capital on that particular fight? There's not a whole lot of upside to making that a focus.
 

sactoking

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Federal law enforcement relies very heavily on local law enforcement. If state and local officials don't cooperate then federal enforcement will be sparse.
 
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What exactly would be the mechanism of an overruling? What happens when a pretty large percentage of states tells the federal government to F off?

This. If state and local police aren't enforcing it, what do you think is going to happen? Federal goverment / national guard based troops would go around looking for people with joints?
 

BurnItDwn

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Oct 10, 1999
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I believe a woman's right to choose lasts for the first 18 years after the 3rd trimester.
 

MixMasterTang

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This. If state and local police aren't enforcing it, what do you think is going to happen? Federal goverment / national guard based troops would go around looking for people with joints?

When the feds want the state to do something and the state says no, there are usually threats of taking away federal funding for projects.
 

Kazukian

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Trump has talked about making pot a schedule 2 drug, and I doubt he has any will to take on a what he's said is a state's right issue.
 

skull

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I always find it funny when GoP'ers are always saying "we want less government", yet they are always the ones wanting to tell women how to plan a family, and for people to use a recreational drug.

In there defense theres a big difference between killing a baby that has no choice and some one who has a choice smoking a plant. The family planning part is supposed to come before the girl is pregnant.

Damn burn it, Tims bat shit crazy mom would of smothered him long before 18 if she could of got away with it.

I don't see trump pushing the issue. Not that it matters pots still "illegal" here, I'm about to spark up some dank anyway.
 

pcgeek11

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Jun 12, 2005
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I really don't care about the pot so much. What they really need to do away with is sanctuary cities.
 
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