Statue of Liberty: presented to America by the people of France: July 4, 1884

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ElFenix

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Originally posted by: LethalWolfe
Originally posted by: Zuph
As France was close to England (our main staging area, for a time), it made sense to go into France, and Liberate it first. France was also one of the closest resisting nations.


Well, if you want to get technical we only went into France because Plan A, entering mainland Europe via Italy, failed (so much for the "soft under-belly" theory ).


Lethal

wasn't it more like moving through the alps was a pain in the arse?
 

gopunk

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just a question, isn't it kind of weird that an officer would be so good at sculpting? dunno, i thought it was interesting.
 

RanDum72

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France is directly responsible for our independence, too. Without them Washington would have been crushed like a bug.

and they basically gave us a big swat of land for a bargain basement price (remember the Louisiana Purchase?). And for people who don't know, the French came out with the idea of democracy during the time when monarchies ruled. What we are doing right now, bashing the French, is childish and bratty. It reinforces the perception of the world about Americans being selfish, arrogant and being spoiled brats. Some Americans may say " I don't care". But I do.
 

French fries have nothing to do with France in the least, they were invented in America by an American.

 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Roger
French fries have nothing to do with France in the least, they were invented in America by an American.

And so we arrive at your question. For also in the 1840s, pomme frites ("fried potatoes") first appeared in Paris. Sadly, we don't know the name of the ingenious chef who first sliced the potato into long slender pieces and fried them. But they were immediately popular, and were sold on the streets of Paris by push-cart vendors.

Frites spread to America where they were called French fried potatoes. You asked how they got their name--pretty obvious, I'd say: they came from France, and they were fried potatoes, so they were called "French fried potatoes." The name was shortened to "french fries" in the 1930s.

By the way, the verb "to french" in cooking has come to mean to cut in long, slender strips, and some people insist that "french fries" come from that term. However, the French fried potato was known since the middle 1800s, while the OED cites the first use of the verb "to french" around 1895, so it appears pretty convincing that "french fried potatoes" came before the verb "frenching." The origin of the name is thus the country of origin French and not the cooking term french.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfrenchfry.html
 

MadRat

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Originally posted by: ManSnake
Let me repeat, it's not called French Fries, the name is Freedom Fries!!!

Sounds COMMUNISTIC to name them Freedom Fries.
 

geno

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Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Let me repeat, it's not called French Fries, the name is Freedom Fries!!!

Sounds COMMUNISTIC to name them Freedom Fries.

Correction, it sounds IDIOTIC to name them Freedom Fries.
 

WinkOsmosis

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Originally posted by: geno
Originally posted by: MadRat
Originally posted by: ManSnake
Let me repeat, it's not called French Fries, the name is Freedom Fries!!!

Sounds COMMUNISTIC to name them Freedom Fries.

Correction, it sounds IDIOTIC to name them Freedom Fries.

No... it sounds RETARDED. You would have to be a RETARD to call them "freedom fries".
 

Syringer

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: Roger
French fries have nothing to do with France in the least, they were invented in America by an American.

And so we arrive at your question. For also in the 1840s, pomme frites ("fried potatoes") first appeared in Paris. Sadly, we don't know the name of the ingenious chef who first sliced the potato into long slender pieces and fried them. But they were immediately popular, and were sold on the streets of Paris by push-cart vendors.

Frites spread to America where they were called French fried potatoes. You asked how they got their name--pretty obvious, I'd say: they came from France, and they were fried potatoes, so they were called "French fried potatoes." The name was shortened to "french fries" in the 1930s.

By the way, the verb "to french" in cooking has come to mean to cut in long, slender strips, and some people insist that "french fries" come from that term. However, the French fried potato was known since the middle 1800s, while the OED cites the first use of the verb "to french" around 1895, so it appears pretty convincing that "french fried potatoes" came before the verb "frenching." The origin of the name is thus the country of origin French and not the cooking term french.
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mfrenchfry.html

0wned.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: Roger
Not Owned you bafoons

Not owned #2

Anyone can post a webpage stating where fries were invented, this does not mean it is fact.

Food that is cut into strips is said to be "Frenched." Since French fries are strips of potato that have been fried, they became known as French fried potatoes, or "French fries."
from my link
By the way, the verb "to french" in cooking has come to mean to cut in long, slender strips, and some people insist that "french fries" come from that term. However, the French fried potato was known since the middle 1800s, while the OED cites the first use of the verb "to french" around 1895, so it appears pretty convincing that "french fried potatoes" came before the verb "frenching." The origin of the name is thus the country of origin French and not the cooking term french.


another link
http://csmweb2.emcweb.com/durable/2000/05/02/p18s1.htm
 

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Argue all you want... I doubt no one will ever know the country of origin of "french fries" for certain. The French do love to take credit for the invention of any good food. (Do they take credit for inventing the french kiss?)

Regardless... look for cultures that used oil for cooking (and had potatoes). "French fries" were most likely invented independently in several countries, without knowledge that they had been invented in those other countries (or were at the same time being invented in other countries). Any research to look for the true "first" inventor of french fries is pointless. There simply wouldn't be any records of this achievement as a first. (Maybe I'm wrong... there just *may* be an 18th century newspaper with the headlines "Mrs. Brown invents a new food by frying potatoes that were cut into long strips")

And again, cutting food into long strips for cooking.... The french discovered that?? I think they just like taking the credit )

p.s. Since the internet is a form of publishing, I'd like to state that I'm the person who invented putting peanut m&m's on pizza as a topping. 150 years from now, during all the arguing, there is a record somewhere. But then again, this would just be the first record of it being used as a topping... There's no way I could be certain I was the first. The same is true of any attempt to trace the origin of French fries. You'll never be certain who was first.

The only real argument therefore, is why they are named "french fries." I'll suggest applying "convergent evolution." The name developed *both* from "french fried potatoes" AND from American GI's eating fried potatoes in France during WWI.
 
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