Stay off the lawn!

Amused

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Not the man's fault
It's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years.

Um, no. You don't use deadly force unless you fear for your life.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Not the man's fault
It's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years.

and how does this make it his fault?

while the kid shouldnt have been walking across the lawn murder was a little extreme. i think a fence would have worked a lot better.
 

Amused

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: joedrake
Not the man's fault
It's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years.

Um, no. You don't use deadly force unless you fear for your life.
I'm sure the kid was warned.

Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
 

BriGy86

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define the harassment he was suffering,

was the kid digging wholes in his yard, lighting the grass on fire?

or did the kid simply step on it from time to time to get his football that he was throwing around with his friends

some people call the smallest most irrelevant things harassment

the point is we don't know
 

JDrake

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Originally posted by: Amused
Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
How is shooting the kid any different than keeping visicious guard dogs that would rip the kid to shreds if he encroached?
 

Viper GTS

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Warning or not, harassment or not, you can't shoot someone for stepping on your grass.

To even try to defend this is asinine.

Viper GTS
 

kogase

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Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Amused
Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
How is shooting the kid any different than keeping visicious guard dogs that would rip the kid to shreds if he encroached?

Because the kid could reasonably expect the vicious guard dogs to tear him to shreds if he encroached, whereas no one would reasonably expect the old coot to fvking shoot them just for walking on his lawn.
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Warning or not, harassment or not, you can't shoot someone for stepping on your grass.

To even try to defend this is asinine.

Viper GTS

this is joedrake...
 

Viper GTS

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Originally posted by: waggy

this is joedrake...

True. Until he pulled the "visicious guard dogs" out of his ass I didn't fully comprehend the level of stupidity I was facing.

Viper GTS
 

BrokenVisage

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Next step.. have him burried in the yard so the man has to look at his tombstone each time he mows his lawn.
 

JDrake

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Originally posted by: kogase
Originally posted by: joedrake
Originally posted by: Amused
Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
How is shooting the kid any different than keeping visicious guard dogs that would rip the kid to shreds if he encroached?

Because the kid could reasonably expect the vicious guard dogs to tear him to shreds if he encroached, whereas no one would reasonably expect the old coot to fvking shoot them just for walking on his lawn.
Originally posted by: joedrake
I'm sure the kid was warned.
W/e: I don't think that he should have shot the kid, but you have to cut the man some slack. I mean what if someone was doing something to PISS you off for FIVE years? You'd get pretty PISSED off, no? No reasonable kid would continue to walk on some old man's lawn, after REPEATED warnings. I don't know the whole story, but I'm guessing this kid was some kind of smartass and deserved some kind of punishment.
Lets say you know someone that has a gun and doesn't like a certain thing. You're not gonna do this "certain thing" CONTINUOUSLY for five years and not expect to get shot.
I say Darwin FTW.
 

allisolm

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W/e: I don't think that he should have shot the kid, but you have to cut the man some slack.

No you don't.

What's even worse is that from the article it looks like the man shot the boy while the boy was in his own yard, not while he was walking on the precious lawn.
 

Regs

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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Warning or not, harassment or not, you can't shoot someone for stepping on your grass.

To even try to defend this is asinine.

Viper GTS

this is joedrake...
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You guys are joking right? The law states to use reasonable force to remove a trespasser. Shooting a small unarmed child on the front lawn twice in day light does not account as reasonable force. The old fart just went senile.
 
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