According to wikipedia, they are the same as shooting someone.Originally posted by: Trey22
Landmines... /thread.
Originally posted by: skyking
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: wvtalbot
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
I find it hilarious reading people trying to defend the old man. He has no excuses - this is ridiculous! :thumbsdown:
The gun nuts will try to defend any shooting as justified.
no they won't.
This is murder. This was not a case of a kid trying to harm the old man and the old guy defending himself.
Yeah but how much you wanna bet the NRA will send a lawyer to help out on his defense?
I'm in for $5. I'll send my paypal to minendo, if he agrees. Put up or shut up.
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Zebo
And you wonder why property rights are going down the tubes.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: joedrake
I'm sure the kid was warned.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: joedrake
Not the man's faultIt's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years.
Um, no. You don't use deadly force unless you fear for your life.
Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
So what? There are some military installation in nevada you will be shot dead for tresspassing and in TX you can shot someone on your property after dark or stealing stuff. There was a repo man shot dead in tx recently as he was leaving with truck. Rights are what ever rights we want them to be - don't hold yourself as oracle of them.
Judging from this you have a very one sided view of property rights:
I shot my neighbors dog on his property. SOB would'nt stop barking. Cops did nothing.
I think I'd let this guy off if I were on the jury.
So your standard is that if your neighbors property annoys you you can kill it without warning while it is on his property. Then I have to assume that your neighbor would have been justified in killing you since you violated his property rights twice with 1 act.
Originally posted by: allisolm
W/e: I don't think that he should have shot the kid, but you have to cut the man some slack.
No you don't.
What's even worse is that from the article it looks like the man shot the boy while the boy was in his own yard, not while he was walking on the precious lawn.
Originally posted by: Joemonkey
I'm not defending the guy, but i live next to an old man who's daughter and grandson come to visit all the time. his grandson must be borderline retarded, because he'll stand out on the front lawn with a stick and bang on the fence for hours at a time. We'll go out there and say "would you please stop that" and then he goes out to the back deck and beats on it, causing our 9mo daughter to wake up.
He also shoots a BB gun at an empty 2 litre bottle, which means the BB ricochets god knows where. I know it's hit our house a few times, but never any windows or cars. I mean this is the kinda kid that pulls a plant hanger out of the ground and spears the fish in his grandfather's koi pond and kicks stray cats and such.
I think the guy should go to prison etc. but I'm not saying such things haven't crossed my mind a few times.
Originally posted by: SagaLore
I feel sorry for the older guy. I know what it feels like to be picked on and taunted for years until you just want to blow up in a fit of outrage. I'm not saying I don't feel sorry for the parents and the kid that died, but for crying out loud, stay off the guy's yard!
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Linflas
Originally posted by: Zebo
And you wonder why property rights are going down the tubes.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: joedrake
I'm sure the kid was warned.Originally posted by: Amused
Originally posted by: joedrake
Not the man's faultIt's been going on for five years ... I've been harassed by him and his parents for five years.
Um, no. You don't use deadly force unless you fear for your life.
Irrelevant. The man did not fear for his life, therefore he has no right to take another life. Period.
So what? There are some military installation in nevada you will be shot dead for tresspassing and in TX you can shot someone on your property after dark or stealing stuff. There was a repo man shot dead in tx recently as he was leaving with truck. Rights are what ever rights we want them to be - don't hold yourself as oracle of them.
Judging from this you have a very one sided view of property rights:
I shot my neighbors dog on his property. SOB would'nt stop barking. Cops did nothing.
I think I'd let this guy off if I were on the jury.
So your standard is that if your neighbors property annoys you you can kill it without warning while it is on his property. Then I have to assume that your neighbor would have been justified in killing you since you violated his property rights twice with 1 act.
I called animal control 3x - I bought him two shock collars for his barky dogs - dog did'nt stop barking in violation of county nusance code. So I took a simple risk vs reward equation and shot his barky dog. Cost me $2000 in court and dog cost. Well worth it. I'd do it again.
His property ceases to be his when it invades on mine. That's how laws work today at least.. don't beleive me? start dumping toxic waste in your front yard.
Originally posted by: Falcon39
The fact that people are defending this asshole makes me sick. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Falcon39
The fact that people are defending this asshole makes me sick. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
You don't know all the facts. Neither do I. I'll just say if this man is at all respected in community as he seems to be it will be very hard to get a conviction.
Originally posted by: thaJungleDoa
Acts like this make you wonder if the human race deserves to survive
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Falcon39
The fact that people are defending this asshole makes me sick. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
You don't know all the facts. Neither do I. I'll just say if this man is at all respected in community as he seems to be it will be very hard to get a conviction.
What kind of community would support the obvious murder of a local teenager with a shotgun by a cranky old man?
Originally posted by: Proletariat
I can't believe some of the fvck-ups in this thread live in the same country I do.
Originally posted by: Proletariat
I can't believe some of the fvck-ups in this thread live in the same country I do.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: cKGunslinger
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: Falcon39
The fact that people are defending this asshole makes me sick. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.
You don't know all the facts. Neither do I. I'll just say if this man is at all respected in community as he seems to be it will be very hard to get a conviction.
What kind of community would support the obvious murder of a local teenager with a shotgun by a cranky old man?
The kind of community that realizes decent people snap when punk ass kids run all over them and a respected war vet- 2nd degree at best.
If you get someone like me on there - who thinks tresspassing should be a capitial offense - may not get a conviction at all.
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Proletariat
I can't believe some of the fvck-ups in this thread live in the same country I do.
Yeah you should probably leave and make it a better place.
Originally posted by: Proletariat
Originally posted by: OdiN
Originally posted by: Proletariat
I can't believe some of the fvck-ups in this thread live in the same country I do.
Yeah you should probably leave and make it a better place.
Nah.
Why don't you just suck me?