Steam numbers for new GPUs.

[ShintaiDK]

http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/

Monthly update July.
Using Vulkan systems for simplification since new cards support this without new driver or OS required.

GTX1060 (Released July 17th) 0.06% (+0.06%)
GTX1070 0.64% (+0.54%)
GTX1080 0.56% (+0.36%)
RX480 0.12% (+0.12%)

Nvidia sells 8 new cards when AMD sells new card 1





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[Lepton87]

So there's almost 5 times as much over-priced 1080s then there is Radeons R480 that are priced to sell? Amazing. Amazingly bad for AMD that is.

 

[Flash831]

A bit underwhelming numbers for AMD. But then again, the RX480 doesn't really compete with the 1080 or 1070.

It competes with the GTX1060, GTX970, R9 390 and 390X. Even the R9 380-series, but why would anyone choose a 380 over a 480?
So just seeing it has twice the marketshare of the 1060, I think the RX480 is fairly successful.

When the supply of the older chips dry up, I expect the sales of RX480 to pick up steam (no pun intended).

 

[sandorski]

So there's almost 5 times as much over-priced 1080s then there is Radeons R480 that are priced to sell? Amazing. Amazingly bad for AMD that is.

Makes me question the results of the Survey. Time will tell.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Buyers move up in SKUs, it shouldn't be a surprise since the GTX970 sales record. Its the lower end that falls out.

 

[DidelisDiskas]

Makes sense when ethereum miners are buying 8 480's at a time.

 

[majord]

Not sure if July figures are particularly representitve. For the same reason GTX1060 figures are even less so. There's obviously a delay in uptake when a card is released (especially with the shitty launch availabilty in some countries, mine included) and in case of 480, it launched right at the start of the sampling period. You'd have to compare August numbers with 1070/1080's July, and for 1060, it's September numbers with 480's August.

 

[Sweepr]

GTX 1070 is the new GTX 970. NVIDIA was right about launching high-end first.

Very interesting numbers considering the claim that most cards sold are in the $100-300 range, and clearly shows who's buying almost all RX 480s (miners).

 

[Baron Fel]

Very interesting numbers considering the claim that most cards sold are in the $100-300 range, and clearly shows who's buying almost all RX 480s (miners).

That claim is from industry people, not some speculation. That said, it'll be interesting to compare 1070 and 1060 market share in a few months. 1060 is a lot more competitive than the 960 was.

 

[SPBHM]

to soon to be counting 1060s and 480s I think, and even the other two.. but judging by the 960 and 970 numbers I don't think much will change... also 1080 is ahead of the 780 ti, that's impressive I think

also, I find it really odd that the highest single AMD model is "HD 8800" is this a popular laptop GPU or what?

 

[StrangerGuy]

So there's almost 5 times as much over-priced 1080s then there is Radeons R480 that are priced to sell? Amazing. Amazingly bad for AMD that is.

A card that sells at 1/3 the quantity of another that costs 3x more screams fail to me.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Ive said this already but perhaps AMD needs to limit or get rid of the cards mining ability. Its better for them in the long run to see AMD having a large % in the steam survey (and gamers buying these products) than in the hands of miners who will definitely hurt next generation of AMD cards when the miners start reselling them.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Steam survey. Yeah, think I'm gonna wait for more reliable numbers.

 

[ShintaiDK]

How many are actually sold to miners. As in real numbers and not just theory?

 

[tviceman]

Although the Steam survey has long lined up with the Peddie market reports, many people here discount Steam because it doesn't fit their narrative.

Now that I think about it, Peddie results doesn't line up with pro-AMD mining narratives either. Anyways, I expect AMD to claw back a little bit of share, ending up around 30% or so.

 

[raghu78]

It seems according to a few here Steam is the definitive source on GPU market share rather than Jon Peddie and Mercury Research. People just want to use information sources which fit their narrative. Anyway Nvidia will continue to be dominant making record profits and margins. AMD is failing to compete and Polaris is a major disappointment. AMD are not learning from the mistakes of the past. They continue to hype up products, overpromise and underdeliver. This is a sign of a company which does not have the R&D and execution necessary to compete at this level and rely on marketing and hype to push products. If those fail AMD finally resort to price cuts to move product.Sad but true. I think both Vega and Zen will disappoint.

 

[Gorbugal]

GTX 1070 is the new GTX 970. NVIDIA was right about launching high-end first.

Very interesting numbers considering the claim that most cards sold are in the $100-300 range, and clearly shows who's buying almost all RX 480s (miners).

This is a self selecting survey i.e. not particularly reliable data. I'd venture to say that people with higher end systems would be more likely to submit results than people with modest ones. Just speculation obviously but it shows just one of the myriad of ways these kinds of surveys can be skewed. I've had Steam since CS Source beta and I've never completed a Hardware Survey with an Nvidia, Intel or AMD GPU. So it's doesn't clearly show much of anything.

 

[Piroko]

Although the Steam survey has long lined up with the Peddie market reports, many people here discount Steam because it doesn't fit their narrative.

I think I would take it more serious if I could see any logic in how it mines its data. I haven't seen a steam survey on my main PC in roundabout six years now, while i had a couple of surveys on my laptop that isn't even on that often. I would think that Steam triggers the survey on that PC that logs the most hours both in Steam and in games...

 

[tviceman]

It seems according to a few here Steam is the definitive source on GPU market share rather than Jon Peddie and Mercury Research. People just want to use information sources which fit their narrative.

All the surveys end up telling the same story in the end. People seem to think since miners aren't accounted for in Steam surveys, Steam is grossly underrepresenting AMD. Then, when Peddie and Mercury come out and mining sales are accounted for in those surveys, the picture painted by those two surveys still matches Steam. It's a never ending cycle of denial and excuses.

 

[Arachnotronic]

It seems according to a few here Steam is the definitive source on GPU market share rather than Jon Peddie and Mercury Research.

Steam is a better source for GPU market share than Jon Peddie research. Steam = real gamers, Jon Peddie = estimates based on company financial results (which are already imprecise because AMD no longer even breaks out dGPU revenue).

People just want to use information sources which fit their narrative.

Some people do, but others are just trying to use the best data available to them. If you want to know how a particular SKU is doing in the marketplace, you literally have no better source of data than Steam HW survey.

Anyway Nvidia will continue to be dominant making record profits and margins.

Only if they continue to put out excellent products. Execution on Pascal has been good, but they need to follow this up with an even stronger Volta. I am optimistic, but these aren't things we can ever take for granted 100%.

Anyway, NVIDIA is actually in kind of a strange position. They have never had a lineup as competitive as they currently do (even their X60 product is more competitive today than it was in prior gen), nor has their competition just been so late to showing up to a fight in recent memory. Over the next 2-3 quarters they are well positioned to grab a ton of share, especially at the high end, but they really can't afford to sit and bask in the glory of Pascal -- they need to get Volta out ASAP to further cement their lead if they want to keep this trajectory going.

AMD is failing to compete and Polaris is a major disappointment. AMD are not learning from the mistakes of the past. They continue to hype up products, overpromise and underdeliver.

That is the purpose of marketing, irrespective of product quality. Don't blame AMD for this one, they're just doing their jobs.

This is a sign of a company which does not have the R&D and execution necessary to compete at this level and rely on marketing and hype to push products. If those fail AMD finally resort to price cuts to move product.Sad but true. I think both Vega and Zen will disappoint.

I think expectations for both Vega and Zen are so high that they will disappoint.

 

[biostud]

I would think that there are more early adapters in high end than budget.

 

[revanchrist]

If the numbers come from system info fetched by Steam when users log into Steam, then yes, it paints a picture of the popularity of different GPUs among gamers (miners excluded). But this is only a survey, which means i can boast that i own a 1080 while in reality i have only a 1060. So yeah, it's a useless chunks of data.

 

[Arachnotronic]

If the numbers come from system info fetched by Steam when users log into Steam, then yes, it paints a picture of the popularity of different GPUs among gamers (miners excluded). But this is only a survey, which means i can boast that i own a 1080 while in reality i have only a 1060. So yeah, it's a useless chunks of data.

Steam reads the hardware that you have, it doesn't just ask you to tell them what GPU you have.

 

[S.H.O.D.A.N.]

Some people do, but others are just trying to use the best data available to them. If you want to know how a particular SKU is doing in the marketplace, you literally have no better source of data than Steam HW survey.

As far as I know, Steam Survey discloses no methodology whatsoever. That makes it an exceptionally poor source of information.

 

[Madpacket]

Steam survey is worse then useless. It presents misleading data. Ever try submitting results with a discrete graphics card only for the survey logic to pickup your Intel HD5300, and not showing / submitting the card you're actually using?

I stopped caring about these results a while ago as they still haven't fixed the detection issues.

I'll be suprised if the the 480 isn't outselling the 1060.