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ImpulsE69

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The thing is, they are necessary. There's an actual problem, even if you haven't been a victim personally. You're the guy complaining about seat belt laws because you've never been in an accident, so buckling your seatbelt is an unnecessary hoop.

You still haven't explained how you'd solve the problem. Declaring it's not a real problem is just denial, not a solution.

Email isn't 2 factor authentication. They had email-only confirmation, and that wasn't enough. The point of the app authorization is that a thief has to be in physical possession of your phone as well has having your Steam password and possibly your email password (particularly if they're the same).

They could use SMS authorization for every single transaction. They're doing it via an app because it's easier for customers. Doing it via SMS would be like setting up the app, which some people here are complaining about, for every transaction, not just once. Open app, tap once is less work.

Why should I have a solution for a problem I haven't had? I already said they have mobile info for your account. YES THEY ALREADY CAN TEXT YOU TO FIND OUT IF YOU ARE THE PERSON, they also track your PC, there is no need for an app when they already have that info. It's simply yet another company that wants into every aspect of your life.

Also, seat belt laws are simply a revenue source (or at least used to be). Motorcycles don't have seatbelts. You do the math.
 
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GusSmed

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Why should I have a solution for a problem I haven't had?
Right, so your solution is to deny that there's a problem. Good job.

EDIT: I must admit, I wasn't expect a seat belt safety denialist on top of that. That's quite the icing on the cake.
 

ImpulsE69

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Right, so your solution is to deny that there's a problem. Good job.

EDIT: I must admit, I wasn't expect a seat belt safety denialist on top of that. That's quite the icing on the cake.

You ignore my point completely, but I've come to expect nothing less from this place when someone has an opinion that differs from someone else. You apparently are one of the 'just go with it crowd, it is in your best interest, question nothing'. It's not like this is life breaking or anything. It's an annoyance that I don't agree with. Life will go on, trust me I'm not crying over it.

Also, I do not deny seat belts save lives, but laws weren't put in place for safety.
 
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sweenish

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You're not exactly arguing proficiently either. And using motorcycles without seatbelts is a very strong example of your inability to argue logically.

On a motorcycle, you are better off without a seatbelt in the event that you cannot go into a controlled slide. Had you put even a minute's worth of thought into it, it makes a lot sense. Cars are designed with roll cages, and staying in the cage is ideal. That's not exactly the case with a motorcycle. Now, helmets aren't legal in every state, and that boggles my mind to no end.

But you probably also think that outlawing murder is purely profit-driven as well. How dare a government be required to pass a law to protect its citizens when they're too stupid to do it themselves.

And not understanding 2-factor is the sole basis for your argument against it, which makes for a piss-poor counter. I have Steam installed on my desktop and laptop. If the laptop is stolen, there is literally nothing stopping someone from going to town on my credit card and wallet balance. Trading has been a massive vector for stolen accounts. 2-factor is simply a necessity because people are dicks.
 

ImpulsE69

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You're not exactly arguing proficiently either. And using motorcycles without seatbelts is a very strong example of your inability to argue logically.

On a motorcycle, you are better off without a seatbelt in the event that you cannot go into a controlled slide. Had you put even a minute's worth of thought into it, it makes a lot sense. Cars are designed with roll cages, and staying in the cage is ideal. That's not exactly the case with a motorcycle. Now, helmets aren't legal in every state, and that boggles my mind to no end.

But you probably also think that outlawing murder is purely profit-driven as well. How dare a government be required to pass a law to protect its citizens when they're too stupid to do it themselves.

And not understanding 2-factor is the sole basis for your argument against it, which makes for a piss-poor counter. I have Steam installed on my desktop and laptop. If the laptop is stolen, there is literally nothing stopping someone from going to town on my credit card and wallet balance. Trading has been a massive vector for stolen accounts. 2-factor is simply a necessity because people are dicks.

Fair enough.

My point of the motorcycles was simply inserted due to his safety analogy. Motorcycles are way less safe than a car in most scenarios, yet they are still allowed to be on the roads. (BTW, I am an avid rider). Most safety laws are simply an easy means to revenue using fear to drum up support for the 'goverment knows better than you' fanatics. It has really nothing to do with this conversation, but he brought it up.

As for this, again, Steam already HAS my phone details to prevent account theft. They don't need an app for something just to sell cards. In fact they also send you an email asking if you put them on the market. It isn't about not understanding 2 factor authentication. I stand by there is practically zero reason to have an app. Really not sure how many more times I can point that out and everyone gloss over it. I don't play Steam games on my phone. I don't need an app.
 
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There really isn't a reason to have a separate app. Steam could just expose 2FA through a service like Authy/DUO or whatever. I have my google account and a dozen other 2FA services all served through Authy.

Steams 2FA is quite transparently a way to get you to install the app.
 

dud

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Just purchased three RTS classics that I've wanted for ages for a total of less than $14. Perhaps one day I will get to play them? I paid an average of a little over $4 each. Even if they went on sale for a buck less during BF ... I'd save a whole $3? I decided to take the plunge and live a little. The sale has been OK to me.
 

Artorias

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Can anyone recommend Sid Meier's Civilization V: Brave New World for me?

Its currently $3.62 for me because of the huge bundle discount, just wondering if its worth getting considering the standard price is $32 bucks.
 

chimaxi83

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I remember back in the day when Steam sale threads were good, were generally about the Steam sale, and had good info in the OP. Meh.
 

imaheadcase

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I just don't see anything i want anymore from steam sales. Its not that some games are not interesting, its just as i get older i spend more time on 1-3 games for months on end. lol

Plus i get addicted to a certain game and every other game seems boring.

Dying Light and Black Desert online have been by only games i've been playing. Dying light is such a great game for mindless killing, and black desert is nice casual game.
 

Craig234

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Can anyone recommend Sid Meier's Civilization V: Brave New World for me?

Its currently $3.62 for me because of the huge bundle discount, just wondering if its worth getting considering the standard price is $32 bucks.

Check the review, they're very good as I recall, considered a very important DLC to get.
 

Craig234

Lifer
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I remember back in the day when Steam sale threads were good, were generally about the Steam sale, and had good info in the OP. Meh.

I remember people always saying that.

Same thing happened on woot.com. Always saying sales were better earlier.
 
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I remember people always saying that.

Same thing happened on woot.com. Always saying sales were better earlier.

I think in this case, earlier steam sales WERE generally better. We can literally look a previous price history and compare.
 

sze5003

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Too bad there isn't a list of all the sales. I've bought some games last year that I haven't even installed or want to play. Will have to check this out when I'm bored then.
 

Craig234

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Steam and math:

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Two items, total bought separately: $21.98

Buy them in a special sale bundle, price: $23.99
 

Craig234

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The value of some games at sale prices is incredible.

Portal $1.99

Dragon Age Origins complete $7.49 (I paid over $100 on PS3)

Burnout Paradise Ultimate $4.99
 

sze5003

Lifer
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The value of some games at sale prices is incredible.

Portal $1.99

Dragon Age Origins complete $7.49 (I paid over $100 on PS3)

Burnout Paradise Ultimate $4.99
Yup it's crazy if you are willing to wait which is why I also enjoy PC gaming.
 

Tifosi248F1

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Can anyone recommend Sid Meier's Civilization V: Brave New World for me?

Its currently $3.62 for me because of the huge bundle discount, just wondering if its worth getting considering the standard price is $32 bucks.

I would say that BNW as well as Gods and Kings are essential to get the best experience from Civ V. They round it out and bring it more in line with the mechanics of Civ IV. If you really enjoy Civ V, the < $4 is probably going to be worth it.
 

Artorias

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I would say that BNW as well as Gods and Kings are essential to get the best experience from Civ V. They round it out and bring it more in line with the mechanics of Civ IV. If you really enjoy Civ V, the < $4 is probably going to be worth it.

Yeah I got it, came with two other map packs included in the price so its peanuts.

Playing it now and trying to figure out why it cost $30 at full price.

Seems like small dlc so far.
 
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