Steam/Valve disabled my account

[DayLaPaul]

learn to edit your original posts with updates. saves people time from having to sift through all the replies to find it.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: fisher
valve is great. steam is great. quit the hate.

i know people who have had their bf42 key stolen and had to get a new one, same procedure to prove they owned it, so it's not like valve is doing anything different. if they just believed every yahoo who emailed saying they should get a free key they'd go out of business.

I concur, I think Steam is fantastic, but I appear to be in the minority for some reason

I love steam as well. I don't care if it crashes or updates too damn often. I think people are expecting steam to be perfect in every way and that's why they hate it.

Steam can go to hell. I had 56k when I got HL2 and the network decrypting was bs. I also don't want my games to auto update. HL2 worked fine for me as shipped. I don't want to download patches I don't need, which can possibly break something that wasn't broken.

I'm on cable now, but I refuse to give them any more of my money. I may be getting Episode 1 through a video card I purchased, but I doubt I'm going to install it. I don't need a bunch of headaches provided by my entertainment. I get enough of that at work.

yes it's valve's fault that you were stuck on 56k and were behind the curve, even then. most of your post is laughable at best, but this part is even more so.

 

[Busithoth]

steam is steam. they should reinstate your account (give you a new key, whatever) since you did nothing wrong.
I have had no problems with them, but there's a vocal group of people who have. And if they're cancelling an account, I think an email to the contact information for the CDkey's registered user is only the least they could do. good luck with this. the game was totally worth playing again with eye candy in widescreen. oh yes.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: diegoalcatraz
I'm a bit torn over steam. On one hand, anything that makes it easier for developers to distribute their work is a step in the right direction. I'm concerned that big publishers (*cough*EA*cough*) are stifling innovation by only supporting re-hash products. I'd kill for a turn-based RPG/combat (ala Fallout, or a new X-com). With costs of cutting edge games rising way beyond what an independent studio can venture, it seems like the big names are relying on their franchises. I wouldn't mind developers working with current-gen technology instead of spending disproportionate amounts on next-gen graphics/features, and instead focus on real content. (It would also save me $$ in the form of hardware upgrades) Meanwhile, while I like single player RPGs (with optional MP cooperative play support), we're also witnessing the maturation of MMORPGs, which eclipse their single player ancestors by offering a continuing profit model. Why develop a game which you'll make $50 per copy, when you can get $25 per month (minus operating costs) per player?

On the other hand, I see their online distribution model is flawed, and I see no easy way to fix it. I'm a big fan of actually having the physical medium. I actually enjoy reading the manuals. What happens if Steam tanks? You can't play your game anymore, whether it be online or offline. There's some snafu with your email or account? You're SOL, until [unless] they resolve it. Your on a PC that [god forbid] doesn't have 'net access? You need a workaround to actually be able to start your game.

you can play your games offline, which has been stated already in this thread. so worst case, you no longer get all the updates valve puts the time into making for their games. as far as liking manuals, that's about the only reason i buy cds anymore. i like reading the liner notes and having a copy of the actual cd if my hdd goes belly up. with steam tho, this isn't a big deal because i can download the game again. itunes (as far as i know) won't let me do that, which to me is truely flawed.

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: fisher
valve is great. steam is great. quit the hate.

i know people who have had their bf42 key stolen and had to get a new one, same procedure to prove they owned it, so it's not like valve is doing anything different. if they just believed every yahoo who emailed saying they should get a free key they'd go out of business.

I concur, I think Steam is fantastic, but I appear to be in the minority for some reason

I love steam as well. I don't care if it crashes or updates too damn often. I think people are expecting steam to be perfect in every way and that's why they hate it.

Steam can go to hell. I had 56k when I got HL2 and the network decrypting was bs. I also don't want my games to auto update. HL2 worked fine for me as shipped. I don't want to download patches I don't need, which can possibly break something that wasn't broken.

I'm on cable now, but I refuse to give them any more of my money. I may be getting Episode 1 through a video card I purchased, but I doubt I'm going to install it. I don't need a bunch of headaches provided by my entertainment. I get enough of that at work.

yes it's valve's fault that you were stuck on 56k and were behind the curve, even then. most of your post is laughable at best, but this part is even more so.

Look jackass, I shouldn't need a bb connection to play a single player game. MS doesn't require 100mb+ downloads, and file decryption before I use Windows, and re-update every week before I try to use my system. And yes, it is unacceptable to push updates to software. I've seen too many problems with developers "updates" to download right away. I didn't need them when I installed the game, I sure as hell don't need them 1 week later. I'm the one whose going to decide what goes on my system, not a bunch of hacks that can't even distribute a game smoothly.

 

[episodic]

Money should be given back.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: fisher
valve is great. steam is great. quit the hate.

i know people who have had their bf42 key stolen and had to get a new one, same procedure to prove they owned it, so it's not like valve is doing anything different. if they just believed every yahoo who emailed saying they should get a free key they'd go out of business.

I concur, I think Steam is fantastic, but I appear to be in the minority for some reason

I love steam as well. I don't care if it crashes or updates too damn often. I think people are expecting steam to be perfect in every way and that's why they hate it.

Steam can go to hell. I had 56k when I got HL2 and the network decrypting was bs. I also don't want my games to auto update. HL2 worked fine for me as shipped. I don't want to download patches I don't need, which can possibly break something that wasn't broken.

I'm on cable now, but I refuse to give them any more of my money. I may be getting Episode 1 through a video card I purchased, but I doubt I'm going to install it. I don't need a bunch of headaches provided by my entertainment. I get enough of that at work.

yes it's valve's fault that you were stuck on 56k and were behind the curve, even then. most of your post is laughable at best, but this part is even more so.

Look jackass, I shouldn't need a bb connection to play a single player game. MS doesn't require 100mb+ downloads, and file decryption before I use Windows, and re-update every week before I try to use my system. And yes, it is unacceptable to push updates to software. I've seen too many problems with developers "updates" to download right away. I didn't need them when I installed the game, I sure as hell don't need them 1 week later. I'm the one whose going to decide what goes on my system, not a bunch of hacks that can't even distribute a game smoothly.

touch a nerve did i? hehe.

you don't NEED a bb connection, you do have the option of buying offline and dealing with a game sold through a publisher. valve keeps strict control over their games to try and keep the cheating down. i'm not sure what windows has to do with games or valve, but okay. honestly you're the type of person that valve doesn't need as a customer, because you would be happy living in the dark ages and keeping technology held back because you think your computer rights are being violated somehow. you seem to be one of those tools who insists on spamming their rig specs in every thread in your sig because you're too ignorant or annoying to learn to use the system rig features built into my anandtech, so i guess i shouldn't be surprised.

as far as distributing a game smoothly, valve does fine. once again, being in the dark ages of the internet is not valve's fault, it's yours.

 

[Doom Machine]

i'm in an almost similar boat with battlefield 2

worked fine for a bit till i accidentally shot a few team mates and got kicked and ever since i keep getting kicked from punkbuster via 0 minutes no matter what server i go to, i reinstalled and reinstalled, reupdated patches
every forum i tried everyone told me i was not permantly banned and to reinstall it

6 months later and a dozen reinstalles including several winxp formats and the new 1.4 patch i still get the exact same message every time...lol not a permanant ban my @ss

the message may not indicate a permanent ban but i suppose it might as well be as its totally unplayable online no matter what i do
and since it worked flawlesslly till that one incident, i still say i got banned

 

[lxskllr]

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: fisher

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: fisher
valve is great. steam is great. quit the hate.

i know people who have had their bf42 key stolen and had to get a new one, same procedure to prove they owned it, so it's not like valve is doing anything different. if they just believed every yahoo who emailed saying they should get a free key they'd go out of business.

I concur, I think Steam is fantastic, but I appear to be in the minority for some reason

I love steam as well. I don't care if it crashes or updates too damn often. I think people are expecting steam to be perfect in every way and that's why they hate it.

Steam can go to hell. I had 56k when I got HL2 and the network decrypting was bs. I also don't want my games to auto update. HL2 worked fine for me as shipped. I don't want to download patches I don't need, which can possibly break something that wasn't broken.

I'm on cable now, but I refuse to give them any more of my money. I may be getting Episode 1 through a video card I purchased, but I doubt I'm going to install it. I don't need a bunch of headaches provided by my entertainment. I get enough of that at work.

yes it's valve's fault that you were stuck on 56k and were behind the curve, even then. most of your post is laughable at best, but this part is even more so.

Look jackass, I shouldn't need a bb connection to play a single player game. MS doesn't require 100mb+ downloads, and file decryption before I use Windows, and re-update every week before I try to use my system. And yes, it is unacceptable to push updates to software. I've seen too many problems with developers "updates" to download right away. I didn't need them when I installed the game, I sure as hell don't need them 1 week later. I'm the one whose going to decide what goes on my system, not a bunch of hacks that can't even distribute a game smoothly.

touch a nerve did i? hehe.

you don't NEED a bb connection, you do have the option of buying offline and dealing with a game sold through a publisher. valve keeps strict control over their games to try and keep the cheating down. i'm not sure what windows has to do with games or valve, but okay. honestly you're the type of person that valve doesn't need as a customer, because you would be happy living in the dark ages and keeping technology held back because you think your computer rights are being violated somehow. you seem to be one of those tools who insists on spamming their rig specs in every thread in your sig because you're too ignorant or annoying to learn to use the system rig features built into my anandtech, so i guess i shouldn't be surprised.

as far as distributing a game smoothly, valve does fine. once again, being in the dark ages of the internet is not valve's fault, it's yours.

Pt#1 I'll put what I want in my sig. If you don't like it you're free to ignore my posts.

Pt#2 How far do care to take the connection issue? do you have a T1 line to your house? If not you're holding back technology. Much more could be done at those speeds if you weren't holding things back.

Pt#3 I bought my game offline, just like I did my os. All I had to do to make Windows work was to install the system, type in my key, then spend 30 seconds (at 50.6kbs) to activate my software. Spending 45 minutes decrypting and updating software is unacceptable.

Pt#4 I guess with all the weed you've been smoking you forgot about the many times the Steam system was unavailable. I shouldn't have to connect to a network to play a sp game period.

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage. It didn't even come close to quality that was HL1. The gameplay was lackluster, and the graphics were evolutionary at best. They did a good job with the people, and water effects. The rest looked like a minor update to the graphics engine. For as long as it took, and as short as the game was they could have done much better for my $35.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage.

Easy there fella, put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer....

 

[nova2]

"lxskllr said: Pt#4 about the many times the Steam system was unavailable. I shouldn't have to connect to a network to play a sp game period. "

but it's their product.
don't respect that? then circumvent it (illegal depending where you are) or don't play it.

I too, don't like needing a net connection to install the SP portion of the game.
but, I didn't find it unacceptable enough to skip HL2.

so it took you 45min to decrypt HL2 on your 56k, do something else while waiting that out. It isn't that long, but it doesn't make one smile, of course.
Muster up some perspective that you can even afford your computer and its applications given all the poor people on this planet.

learn to deal with or adapt when you don't get your way.
get good at this and carry on.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage.

Easy there fella, put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer....

Cut him some slack.

Fisher just pretty much attacked him in a personal manner several times because he didn't like his opinion on Steam.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Originally posted by: GundamSonicZeroX

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: fisher
valve is great. steam is great. quit the hate.

i know people who have had their bf42 key stolen and had to get a new one, same procedure to prove they owned it, so it's not like valve is doing anything different. if they just believed every yahoo who emailed saying they should get a free key they'd go out of business.

I concur, I think Steam is fantastic, but I appear to be in the minority for some reason

I love steam as well. I don't care if it crashes or updates too damn often. I think people are expecting steam to be perfect in every way and that's why they hate it.

Steam can go to hell. I had 56k when I got HL2 and the network decrypting was bs. I also don't want my games to auto update. HL2 worked fine for me as shipped. I don't want to download patches I don't need, which can possibly break something that wasn't broken.

I'm on cable now, but I refuse to give them any more of my money. I may be getting Episode 1 through a video card I purchased, but I doubt I'm going to install it. I don't need a bunch of headaches provided by my entertainment. I get enough of that at work.

Wait, why do you hate them? Because they are constantly updating and adding things to improve and fix their games? ...oh the horror!! :roll:

edit: typo

Can't you just uncheck that box that says "download updates automatically"?

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage.

Easy there fella, put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer....

Cut him some slack.

Fisher just pretty much attacked him in a personal manner several times because he didn't like his opinion on Steam.

Ok, will do. Thing is I just finished the game for the first time and can not imagine how anyone could hate it

 

[Turkey22]

Mine stopped working for a week or two. I'm pretty sure it was hijacked (at least that's what valve said). I bought it through steam, but they were pretty cool about it other than it taking a while to fix. I'm guessing they have a tremendous amount of accounts that are hijacked and when you submit an issue it probably takes a week for human to see it.

 

[Smilin]

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage.

Easy there fella, put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer....

Cut him some slack.

Fisher just pretty much attacked him in a personal manner several times because he didn't like his opinion on Steam.

Ok, will do. Thing is I just finished the game for the first time and can not imagine how anyone could hate it

Me either. I dig HL and Valve. Great stuff! Although if I suddenly had the problem the op is having my mind would probably change immediately to hatred.

 

[Doom Machine]

heres how i used to do it...i signed in online one time, then i just alt tabbed out when done and kept pc on stanbye...worked perfectly so i dont quite see what the big deal is with steam

i do agree however if you cant play by the rules assigned then dont play at all, its kinda like goin to a baseball game and trying to play kickball instead

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: Smilin

Originally posted by: KeithTalent

Originally posted by: lxskllr

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage.

Easy there fella, put down the crack pipe and step away from the computer....

Cut him some slack.

Fisher just pretty much attacked him in a personal manner several times because he didn't like his opinion on Steam.

i'm sorry, i wasn't the one name calling, so i'm not sure how personal my attacks were, but whatever. so far i've been called a jackass and told to stop smoking weed. but yeah...

edit: okay so i might have called him a tool, but i think it was deserved and had nothing to do with his views on steam.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
Pt#1 I'll put what I want in my sig. If you don't like it you're free to ignore my posts.

but it's good for laughs, why would i want to skip it?

Pt#2 How far do care to take the connection issue? do you have a T1 line to your house? If not you're holding back technology. Much more could be done at those speeds if you weren't holding things back.

certainly, because most web surfing from home would benefit from a t1. the reality is my connection would be faster than most of the sites i connect to. as it is my broadband connection is faster than most sites i connect to. but definitely a good point. 56k is to cable/dsl as cable/dsl is to t1.

Pt#3 I bought my game offline, just like I did my os. All I had to do to make Windows work was to install the system, type in my key, then spend 30 seconds (at 50.6kbs) to activate my software. Spending 45 minutes decrypting and updating software is unacceptable.

once again, no idea why you keep mentioning windows. and if you go online with an unpatched copy of windows you're going to be loving life. but you definitely showed me once again why valve/steam is bad, by uh, mentioning windows. let me say once again, it's not valve's fault you have a connection that is below the current standards (or had if that is the case). it certainly didn't take me 45 minutes and if it did i would have found something else to do instead of harboring the hate for years. maybe you need a hobby.

Pt#4 I guess with all the weed you've been smoking you forgot about the many times the Steam system was unavailable. I shouldn't have to connect to a network to play a sp game period.

i've never had steam unavailible to me. EVER. i'm sure it does, but it hasn't when i've wanted to play. i don't sit around connected to steam 24/7 tho, so maybe that's why i don't have these issues. however, for the 80923049023943029343rd time, you can play games offline. it does work. google is your friend.

Pt#4 This doesn't pertain to this issue, but HL2 was garbage. It didn't even come close to quality that was HL1. The gameplay was lackluster, and the graphics were evolutionary at best. They did a good job with the people, and water effects. The rest looked like a minor update to the graphics engine. For as long as it took, and as short as the game was they could have done much better for my $35.

this just tells me you're trolling at this point. there's a good chance you never ever played hl2. there's a better chance you were a cs 1.6 player who now hates valve because they moved forward instead of staying stuck in the past. or just trolling. one of those, for sure.

 

[lxskllr]

This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

 

[KeithTalent]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

Can you give me an example of a game that blows HL2 out of the water? I am truly interested, because if I thought HL2 was amazing, then whatever one you suggest should absolutely blow me away.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

hehe, oh my.

You'll be shocked to know that Fogging is optomization, not the lack thereof. Without the Fog you'd be complaining about the poor performance.

 

[brikis98]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: lxskllr
This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

hehe, oh my.

You'll be shocked to know that Fogging is optomization, not the lack thereof. Without the Fog you'd be complaining about the poor performance.

well... IMO, fog is more of a "hack" or workaround put in to improve performance BECAUSE the developers didn't/couldn't optimize the graphics in any other way. having said that, i personally think HL 2 had very good graphics and don't really agree with lxskllr's opinion on that matter.

 

[erikistired]

Originally posted by: lxskllr
This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

that still makes no sense. windows is not a game, and last time i checked you had to call home to validate your copy of windows. you can't compare software that was intended to be distributed online and packaged for retail as a second thought to an operating system. it's just not the same thing. as far as the graphics, perhaps you were using a subpar card at the time. lay off the hatorade a bit. at least brikis had a legit complaint.

the puzzles were actually quite well done compared to standard FPS stuff. i don't remember the last fps i played where i had to dive down and move barrels to lift a ramp to jump my boat on, or add weight to a basket to lift a gate. usually it's "fight bad guys, make way to switch, flip switch, fight more bad guys, go through door" and repeat.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: brikis98

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: lxskllr
This is my last post on this topic, I'm finished with it, and with you. I played the hell out of the original HL, and I've never spent 1 second on a CS server. If you can't see how bad the graphics are in HL2 then you're blind. The textures looked like crap for the most part, and the low polys they used in some of the models was very apparent. I already stated they did a good hjob with the people and the water, but that was it. The noticable fogging in many of the levels points to an unoptimized engine. As far as the gameplay goes the driving levels were tedious, and the puzzles were uninspired. The rest of the game was standard fps fare. You need to lay off the fanboyism and take an objective look at what you're talking about.

As to the Windows comparison, that's to demonstrate the correct way to implement piracy protection. Steam is not.

hehe, oh my.

You'll be shocked to know that Fogging is optomization, not the lack thereof. Without the Fog you'd be complaining about the poor performance.

well... IMO, fog is more of a "hack" or workaround put in to improve performance BECAUSE the developers didn't/couldn't optimize the graphics in any other way. having said that, i personally think HL 2 had very good graphics and don't really agree with lxskllr's opinion on that matter.

The other ways of Optomizing would have the same effect, that is cutting the render distance. You can use Fog or place objects within the players view with Antiportals(some engines automatically cull graphics behind cetain types of objects, such as BSP) inside the objects to cull everything on the other side. Fog is widely used in open areas because it just looks better.