Stephen A. Smith: Bite the hand that feeds you.

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Bitek

Lifer
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Many blacks don't actually follow politics in any meaningful way. They tend to see things as "conspiracies". "The man" is out to get them they will say. Dems tell them they are right to fear "the man" and that they will stick it to "the man" for them. The Dem relationship to blacks is like an Island dictator who is always telling his people to be ready for an invasion by "imperialists". Blacks don't see Obama and Dems burying them under all the illegals. They think Obama is just bringing in more soldiers to "stick it to the man"

Hey look, a conservative has gone racist!

Surely to follow is a statement of confusion and cluelessness. "What?! I'm just stating facts based on cartoon generalizations. Thats not racist! You're racist for pointing it out!"
 

pcgeek11

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When in reality he is correct that neither party gives a big whoop about them at all. The Democrats keep them hooked on the drugs called welfare and handouts. The Republicans just ignore them as they are voting for Dems anyway. The blacks will have to be their own way out of this continual circle. In this regard he is quite correct.

If you believe as has been stated many times that the Democrats are helping the blacks you are mistaken. Please point out where they are better off since Obama has been in office. In six years some progress should be obvious, oh wait it isn't.
 
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Meghan54

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It's just too bad Smith has no clue about the Civil Rights Bill of '64 or how it was passed.

There was no Repub. senate.....both houses were Dem. controlled and the "thankless" liberal Dems. and Repubs. got it passed, no thanks to the obstructionist conservative Dems. and Repubs.
 

Texashiker

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What keeps them from voting R is that they believe Republicans don't care about them or their concerns,

As I have already stated the GOP has more in common with minorities, not just blacks, than liberal democrats.

Your typical California liberal democrat has nothing in common with a southern democrat black voter. While GOP voters across the country share numerous beliefs, such as family values, religion, anti-abortion, work ethic,,,, etc.

generalize them all as welfare recipients, and believe they are culturally inferior.

You are so full of crap I bet your ears drip diarrhea.

On average, blacks tend to live in higher poverty rates than whites. Or, they have a family members who live near the poverty line.

Due to government benefits blacks and other minorities vote for continued support rather than voting their morals and values.

If you remove poverty and welfare from the equation there would be no reason for blacks or other minorities to vote democrat. Liberal Democrats with their stance on gay marriage, gun control, abortion, atheism,,, have nothing in common with the black community.

Blacks - in general - have strong family values which are deeply grounded with religion. Those are conservative GOP stances, not liberal democrats.
 

fskimospy

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As I have already stated the GOP has more in common with minorities, not just blacks, than liberal democrats.

Your typical California liberal democrat has nothing in common with a southern democrat black voter. While GOP voters across the country share numerous beliefs, such as family values, religion, anti-abortion, work ethic,,,, etc.

You are so full of crap I bet your ears drip diarrhea.

On average, blacks tend to live in higher poverty rates than whites. Or, they have a family members who live near the poverty line.

Due to government benefits blacks and other minorities vote for continued support rather than voting their morals and values.

If you remove poverty and welfare from the equation there would be no reason for blacks or other minorities to vote democrat. Liberal Democrats with their stance on gay marriage, gun control, abortion, atheism,,, have nothing in common with the black community.

Blacks - in general - have strong family values which are deeply grounded with religion. Those are conservative GOP stances, not liberal democrats.

The actual minorities themselves appear to disagree with you, lol.
 

Texashiker

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The actual minorities themselves appear to disagree with you, lol.

Proof?

On average hispanics, blacks and other minorities are religious, value family and oppose abortion.

All of which fly in the face of liberal democrats.
 

1prophet

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Or, maybe start their own party.

That's the hard road to take but the correct one.

You have two options, 1 party believes in your right to equal treatment, the other party well.. doesn't. That's an easy vote for me.

Ask the unions, what's left of them how that two option system worked out for them.
 

dank69

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Proof?

On average hispanics, blacks and other minorities are religious, value family and oppose abortion.

All of which fly in the face of liberal democrats.
Maybe they are smarter than you and realize that government shouldn't be legislating religious morality. Maybe they are smart enough to realize the government will never successfully outlaw abortion so don't waste their votes on GOP lip service.
 

fskimospy

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Proof?

On average hispanics, blacks and other minorities are religious, value family and oppose abortion.

All of which fly in the face of liberal democrats.

http://publicreligion.org/research/...anic-reproductive-issues-survey/#.VQwyYI7F98E

Black Americans and Hispanic Americans differ significantly in their attitudes regarding the legality of abortion. Two-thirds (67%) of black Americans believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases, while 30% disagree. By contrast, a slim majority (51%) of Hispanic Americans agree that abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, while 46% say it should be legal in all or most cases.

What's interesting is that it seems even hispanics are coming around:

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/latinos-endorse-legal-abortion/

Exit poll results found that about two-thirds of Hispanics (66%) said that abortion should be legal while 28% disagreed. Among all voters, a somewhat smaller majority (59%) would allow legal abortions while 37% were opposed.

I'm glad you think that a group for which 2/3rds say that says abortion should be legal in all or most circumstances has so much in common with conservatives. Presumably this means you guys have finally seen the light on abortion. Congrats!
 

alzan

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Proof?

On average hispanics, blacks and other minorities are religious, value family and oppose abortion.

All of which fly in the face of liberal democrats.

So liberal democrats don't value family, aren't religious, are pro abortion?

Truly fascinating!

I think it much more likely that liberal democrats value family, are more spiritual but slightly less religious than their conservative republican counterparts, they just don't define themselves by their beliefs and they are pro abortion they are also pro- better and more inclusive sex education, wider access to "morning after" and Plan B pills, etc. They may not themselves get or want women to get abortions but they wouldn't dream of supporting polices that took away a woman's right to a choice.
 

trenchfoot

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Wake up and face the facts.

Minorities, not just blacks, share a wide range of Republican values. Such as family values, religion, anti-abortion,,,, etc.

One of the key factors that prevents blacks from voting GOP is their fear of losing welfare.

Once the welfare issue is removed and blacks move up the economic ladder, they start voting GOP.

I find it rather odd that you would think that family values, religion, anti-abortion etc.... are values that only Republicans believe in.

It seems to me the only value the RNC/GOP have is the one in which they wish to somehow exploit those very values that you mentioned to help the rich get richer beyond their wildest dreams.
 

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Proof?

On average hispanics, blacks and other minorities are religious, value family and oppose abortion.

All of which fly in the face of liberal democrats.

Please continue, you are immeasurably amusing.
 

Blackjack200

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The reason that black people tend to vote for the Democratic party is because the party has consistenly aligned itself closer to their interests than the Republicans. It's that simple.

Social programs, affirmative action, civil rights, education, drug laws, minimum wage, gun control, etc. The Republicans can continue to howl that black people vote Democrat without getting anything in return, but I don't see it that way, and it doesn't seem like black people do either.

And fwiw, if they wanted to demonstrate their disapproval with the Democratic party, the way to do it would be to just stay home on election day, not vote for a party that does even less for you. That makes no sense.
 

dank69

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...

And fwiw, if they wanted to demonstrate their disapproval with the Democratic party, the way to do it would be to just stay home on election day, not vote for a party that does even less for you. That makes no sense.
Exactly, which is why I lean more toward Smith being an asshole just looking out for his own best interests at the expense of everyone else, but I don't know much about him. Maybe he really is that stupid.
 

sm625

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Black net worth is the same as 1989? Even though the cost of food and gas has more than doubled? Its a miracle there arent riots nationwide...
 

Meghan54

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As I have already stated the GOP has more in common with minorities, not just blacks, than liberal democrats.


You may be right.....let's examine the Republican voting base by state in the last two elections:

2008







2012







Now, contrast those with this:




Notice any pattern or similarity between the first two (Republican carried states are red, Democratic carried states are blue) and the third map, which shows the map of the U.S. after the Missouri Compromise.....the red states are the slave states, the blue the free states.

Not any surprise that the southern conservatives, who 150 years ago were Democrats and slave owners, can't get the black vote? Doesn't matter what the name on the party is, the conservatives are rooted in the south and carry forward the southern conservative traditions.....
 

Texashiker

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So liberal democrats don't value family, aren't religious, are pro abortion?

Truly fascinating!





Not any surprise that the southern conservatives, who 150 years ago were Democrats and slave owners, can't get the black vote? Doesn't matter what the name on the party is, the conservatives are rooted in the south and carry forward the southern conservative traditions.....

Republicans are the ones who ones who freed the blacks, not democrats.

As for conservative traditions, a lot has changed since 1865.
 
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michal1980

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And this is why you guys will never get the black vote. You tell yourselves fairy tales like this. What keeps them from voting R is that they believe Republicans don't care about them or their concerns, generalize them all as welfare recipients, and believe they are culturally inferior. Honestly can't really blame them for believing those things either.

Your just wrong. That's the AD the dems will run. Blacks for for a republican and your hand out goes away, you need the dems for your hand outs, how will you survive without handouts? - This ad brought to you by the DNC.
 

alzan

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Wow, a poster meme from a website called liberallogic101.com. Yep I'm totally convinced; that you use emotional and disproven quips to "make" your point.

Immoral behavior is in the eye of the beholder; if you don't like what's on one TV channel you can........wait for it..........switch to another channel or perhaps turn the TV off. That's the great thing about America, choice. Why do you hate America?

Profanity? They're just words. To quote an old saying: "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"

Nudity? Giving in to your puritanical roots? It's the human body, beautiful in form and design. Celebrated by artists, sculptors and photographers for centuries.
 

CitizenKain

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Republicans are the ones who ones who freed the blacks, not democrats.

It never ceases to amaze me that rightwingers continue to post this without understanding how the parties changed over the years. Maybe if the righties were so anti-education you guys could figure this out on your own.

Also republicans wondering why they can't get minorities to vote for them while at the same time courting the racist fringe and trying to pass laws to restrict minorities from voting.
 

Blackjack200

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Democrats are the hand that feeds blacks....wow.

Stephan A Smith is implicitly criticizing the voting behavior of black Democratic voters, which probably constitute a substantial part of his audience on ESPN, and thus metaphorically feed him.

This is not about the Democratic party feeding black people. Holy shit you are stupid/racist.

It never ceases to amaze me that rightwingers continue to post this without understanding how the parties changed over the years. Maybe if the righties were so anti-education you guys could figure this out on your own.

The fucked up thing is that I actually believe in a lot of the things that conservatism is supposed to stand for: free enterprise, hard work and fair chance for everyone. At this point the Republican party is nothing but a party for highly funded special interests, racists, homophobes, and half-wits like DSF.
 
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